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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8849920" data-attributes="member: 93670">No.  This is not a gitgud problem, the design causes problems on on objective levels then demands the GM handle them.[spoiler]Arcana (ancient mysteries, magic traditions, arcane symbols, cryptic phrases, constructs, dragons, magical beasts)Architecture and engineering (buildings, aqueducts, bridges, fortifications)Dungeoneering (aberrations, caverns, oozes, spelunking)Geography (lands, terrain, climate, people)History (royalty, wars, colonies, migrations, founding of cities)Local (legends, personalities, inhabitants, laws, customs, traditions, humanoids)Nature (animals, fey, giants, monstrous humanoids, plants, seasons and cycles, weather, vermin)Nobility and royalty (lineages, heraldry, family trees, mottoes, personalities)Religion (gods and goddesses, mythic history, ecclesiastic tradition, holy symbols, undead)The planes (the Inner Planes, the Outer Planes, the Astral Plane, the Ethereal Plane, outsiders, elementals, magic related to the planes)[/spoiler]Most of those are gone or condensed into Arcana & a selection of wisdom based skills before being condensed the,selves from a specialized array too large to know down to single skills. It was possible for anyone to be skilled in a niche knowledge related to their niche but intelligence as a star had value because it was the only way to bump them all & because int mod added to skill points.  Now players are better off all just taking Arcana and dumping into if the gm intends to make those missing skills important.The existence of a skill other than perception for a similar function in the context of d&d's game play constraints was not forgotten or overlooked.  5e removes magic item churn & makes magic items a thing the math does not consider causing a skill for where's Waldo  problematic. The Sherlock Holmes aspect of investigate is likewise not very fitting with being an important part of d&d as a game. Yes a gm could make a mystery adventure that tries to make investigation important but A: that only goes so far before it feels forced because d&d is not a detective ttrpg and B: it's just not important that players find the clue unless the gm intends to shoot the investigation in the skull when players fail to find or connect the clues.In earlier editions characters had less extensive toolsets to invoke & the skill system itself was largely whatever felt reasonable to the gm.  That no longer works because characters have dramatically larger skillsets to draw upon while there is a skill system that largely hangs on dexterity charisma & wisdom."Gitgud & be a better gm" is not the sole source of problem that devalues intelligence into a rewarding dump stat & penalizing primary attribute.</blockquote>

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