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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 4555745" data-attributes="member: 74232">My bad, counts as. No one is saying it's being use as a melee weapon when being used in a ranged attack. However it IS a melee weapons being used in a ranged attack. Nothing says that a ranged attack requires a ranged weapon.&nbsp;Look at what you said &quot;counts as&quot; not &quot;IS a ranged weapon for ranged attacks.&quot; If that was the case you'd see thrown weapons listed on the chart of ranged weapons. You don't because a javelin doesn't 'mystically' change into a ranged weapon the instant it leaves your hand. Even if it were to do this, why would it stop being a melee weapon? &nbsp;Let's put this another way. I run over someone with my car. I've effectively used my car as a weapon. Did it stop being a car when I used it as a weapon? No, it was always a car. If I put a longsword in a catapult and fire it, when does stop being a one handed weapon? If I hit someone with the hilt of my sword, when does it stop being a sword? If I use a crossbow as a paperweight, when does it stop being a ranged weapon?&nbsp;Bottom line why does using something differently alter what the weapon is?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 4555745, member: 74232"] My bad, counts as. No one is saying it's being use as a melee weapon when being used in a ranged attack. However it IS a melee weapons being used in a ranged attack. Nothing says that a ranged attack requires a ranged weapon. Look at what you said "counts as" not "IS a ranged weapon for ranged attacks." If that was the case you'd see thrown weapons listed on the chart of ranged weapons. You don't because a javelin doesn't 'mystically' change into a ranged weapon the instant it leaves your hand. Even if it were to do this, why would it stop being a melee weapon? Let's put this another way. I run over someone with my car. I've effectively used my car as a weapon. Did it stop being a car when I used it as a weapon? No, it was always a car. If I put a longsword in a catapult and fire it, when does stop being a one handed weapon? If I hit someone with the hilt of my sword, when does it stop being a sword? If I use a crossbow as a paperweight, when does it stop being a ranged weapon? Bottom line why does using something differently alter what the weapon is? [/QUOTE]

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