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<blockquote data-quote="prospero63" data-source="post: 4600816" data-attributes="member: 16014"><p>Actually, no I'm not. In fact I explicitly called out the concept of align weapon and similar spells and effects and differentiated between "aligning" a weapon and alignment. They aren't the same thing any more than alignment and an alignment subtype are the same thing. </p><p></p><p>Now, if you want to broaden the discussion beyond whether an intelligent weapon that has an alignment can bypass DR (and it cannot according to the rules) we can certainly do that, but that isn't what the OP asked, and isn't what I have been responding to. Align weapon, weapons that have a specific property such as axiomatic, creatures that have a subtype wielding a weapon are all effectively red herrings. They don't address the original question, the question to which my responses were centered on. If my responses helped to further any confusion or lack of clarity, my apologies, but I think if you read the rest of my response you will find that my opinions aren't contradictory. In fact, I think they are consistent across the board. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is a bit of a bait and switch. You state "have an alignment" but then proceed to describe a weapon which aligned. Alignment and aligned are not the same thing. Nothing I have previously stated is contradictory with axiomatic, etc. weapons. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We partially agree. Alignment does not equal alignment subtype. But alignment is also not the same as being aligned. IMO you are interchanging the two terms "alignment" and "aligned" and they aren't interchangeable. If you read the RAW they tend to be very specific in whether the terminology used for the description is "aligned" or has an "alignment". </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you are inserting "or have an alignment" when it doesn't exist in the rules. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Since it seems you want to expand the discussion, I'm cool with that. </p><p></p><p>Q: What bypasses DR [evil, chaos, law, good]?</p><p>A: The following scenarios provide for the bypassing of DR</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Any weapon which has been "aligned" through the use of spells or effects such as "align weapon" (this includes any spells which expressly state that they provide for the bypassing of DR)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Any weapon which has been given the appropriate special ability such as axiomatic, anarchic, holy or unholy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Any weapon or natural attack wielded by a creature with the appropriate alignment subtype such as [Evil], [Good], [Lawful], [Chaotic]</li> </ol><p></p><p>I don't think I missed any scenarios based on the RAW.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prospero63, post: 4600816, member: 16014"] Actually, no I'm not. In fact I explicitly called out the concept of align weapon and similar spells and effects and differentiated between "aligning" a weapon and alignment. They aren't the same thing any more than alignment and an alignment subtype are the same thing. Now, if you want to broaden the discussion beyond whether an intelligent weapon that has an alignment can bypass DR (and it cannot according to the rules) we can certainly do that, but that isn't what the OP asked, and isn't what I have been responding to. Align weapon, weapons that have a specific property such as axiomatic, creatures that have a subtype wielding a weapon are all effectively red herrings. They don't address the original question, the question to which my responses were centered on. If my responses helped to further any confusion or lack of clarity, my apologies, but I think if you read the rest of my response you will find that my opinions aren't contradictory. In fact, I think they are consistent across the board. Again, this is a bit of a bait and switch. You state "have an alignment" but then proceed to describe a weapon which aligned. Alignment and aligned are not the same thing. Nothing I have previously stated is contradictory with axiomatic, etc. weapons. We partially agree. Alignment does not equal alignment subtype. But alignment is also not the same as being aligned. IMO you are interchanging the two terms "alignment" and "aligned" and they aren't interchangeable. If you read the RAW they tend to be very specific in whether the terminology used for the description is "aligned" or has an "alignment". Again, you are inserting "or have an alignment" when it doesn't exist in the rules. Correct. Since it seems you want to expand the discussion, I'm cool with that. Q: What bypasses DR [evil, chaos, law, good]? A: The following scenarios provide for the bypassing of DR [LIST=1] [*]Any weapon which has been "aligned" through the use of spells or effects such as "align weapon" (this includes any spells which expressly state that they provide for the bypassing of DR) [*]Any weapon which has been given the appropriate special ability such as axiomatic, anarchic, holy or unholy [*]Any weapon or natural attack wielded by a creature with the appropriate alignment subtype such as [Evil], [Good], [Lawful], [Chaotic] [/LIST] I don't think I missed any scenarios based on the RAW. [/QUOTE]
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