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Intelligent Weapons Vs. DR
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<blockquote data-quote="gonzimodo" data-source="post: 4618429" data-attributes="member: 67014"><p>But what about this from the description of Damage Reduction:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: white">"A creature with an </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/description.htm#alignment" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">alignment</span></a><span style="color: white"> subtype (</span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#chaoticSubtype" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">chaotic</span></a><span style="color: white">, </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#evilSubtype" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">evil</span></a><span style="color: white">, </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#goodSubtype" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">good</span></a><span style="color: white">, or </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#lawfulSubtype" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">lawful</span></a><span style="color: white">) can overcome this type of damage reduction with its </span><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#naturalWeapons" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">natural weapons</span></a><span style="color: white"> and weapons it wields <strong><span style="color: red">as if the weapons or natural weapons had an alignment</span></strong> (or alignments) that match the subtype(s) of the creature."</span></p><p> </p><p>Alignment and alignment subtypes and being "aligned" via spell are obviously different things, but the rule above says that a weapon with an alignment (not just one that is "aligned" or has a subtype) overcomes DR.</p><p> </p><p>However:</p><p> </p><p>"Intelligent items can actually be considered creatures because they have Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores."</p><p> </p><p>So is it a weapon? Is it a creature/construct? Is it both? I would agree that an intelligent pair of boots or an intelligent wand or some other intelligent, non-weapon magic item would not overcome DR, but I think an intelligent weapon would. Think of it as having the "weapon subtype." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>(To be honest, I'm not even sure why I'm continuing to argue this, as I don't think it's ever going to come up in my game, but it's a very interesting argument, and I just disagree with the naysayers on this.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gonzimodo, post: 4618429, member: 67014"] But what about this from the description of Damage Reduction: [COLOR=white]"A creature with an [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/description.htm#alignment"][COLOR=white]alignment[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white] subtype ([/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#chaoticSubtype"][COLOR=white]chaotic[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white], [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#evilSubtype"][COLOR=white]evil[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white], [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#goodSubtype"][COLOR=white]good[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white], or [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#lawfulSubtype"][COLOR=white]lawful[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white]) can overcome this type of damage reduction with its [/COLOR][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#naturalWeapons"][COLOR=white]natural weapons[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white] and weapons it wields [B][COLOR=red]as if the weapons or natural weapons had an alignment[/COLOR][/B] (or alignments) that match the subtype(s) of the creature."[/COLOR] Alignment and alignment subtypes and being "aligned" via spell are obviously different things, but the rule above says that a weapon with an alignment (not just one that is "aligned" or has a subtype) overcomes DR. However: "Intelligent items can actually be considered creatures because they have Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores." So is it a weapon? Is it a creature/construct? Is it both? I would agree that an intelligent pair of boots or an intelligent wand or some other intelligent, non-weapon magic item would not overcome DR, but I think an intelligent weapon would. Think of it as having the "weapon subtype." ;) (To be honest, I'm not even sure why I'm continuing to argue this, as I don't think it's ever going to come up in my game, but it's a very interesting argument, and I just disagree with the naysayers on this.) [/QUOTE]
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