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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 6263909" data-attributes="member: 3400">All games are going to compete at some level. Some pairings, however, will compete much more directly. Mutants and Masterminds competes more directly with Champions than it does Dread because M&M and Champions are both in the same genre and trying to supply the same demand. D&D 5e, when it comes out, will be competing with Pathfinder in a pretty direct manner. Same basic genre. Versions of the same IP from monsters to classes to magic items. Their respective markets will not 100% overlap since there will be some PF fans who will not buy from WotC, will not want to go to a lighter rule set, just as there will be people in the D&D market who won't buy from Paizo, continued with the D&D line through 4e's days and into 5e, etc. But the overlap will be considerable. There will be PF players eager to return to the official D&D family, looking for a lighter rule set, rewarding WotC for dumping 4e, whatever. And there will be some (like possibly me) who will undoubtedly play both because the games relieve slightly different itches. But, not being infinitely rich or blessed with infinite amounts of time, any playing of one I do will probably cut into the play time I would have had for the other and I won't invest as heavily in both games as I would in one. And both companies will want players like me buying their stuff so I fully expect Paizo to continue to present awesome products for my consideration and I expect WotC will try to raise its game and do the same.So yes, they are going to try to compete for players, tables, and buyers from Pathfinder fans. By simply re-entering the marketplace with a D&D edition, they are doing exactly that.True, but the current situation for WotC isn't just theory. It's reality and has a basis in real events, judgments, and decisions. They stopped development on 4e earlier than was apparently planned (since they cancelled products already in the works) and announced a new revision under development that would hopefully appeal to fans of all editions. If that isn't a statement that 4e wasn't living up to hopes (however successful it may have been) and that they were feeling the loss of Pathfinder players and fans and wanted to produce a game that attracted them back as customers, then I don't know what would be.</blockquote>

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