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<blockquote data-quote="Johno" data-source="post: 271273" data-attributes="member: 4388">Well, you interpret the rules that way Marshall. I see the stacking of Metamagic feats as a minor problem.Empower might be good for damage dealing spells, up to a point. With Improved Metamagic you lower the cost of metamagicking that feat to its minimum, +1.Enhance, on the other hand can also be lowered via the same method to a cost of +1. Sure it costs feat wise, but the effects then become MUCH more favourable. (20d6 vs 1.5x10d6... hmmm, what to choose...)Any system with this much flexibility and number crunching is going to end up with a few pecularities. The advantages of taking Improved Metamagic three times are quite obvious. Twinned, Repeating Greater Dispel Magic as a 8th level spell, for just one. Then the Enhance feat doesn't seem like so much waste of space for the damage dealing spells, either.One thing that has me wondering is the application of Heightened Spell and Improved Metamagic. Strikes me that you would get free heightened levels. So taking Improved Metamagic feat multiple times is also a method to keep up with those who only take Improved Spellcasting, and gain some extra flexibility with metamagic, at the cost of an extra high level spell slot. You could, with enough feat expenditure,cast a spell heightened to 20th level in a 10th level spell slot...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Johno, post: 271273, member: 4388"] Well, you interpret the rules that way Marshall. I see the stacking of Metamagic feats as a minor problem. Empower might be good for damage dealing spells, up to a point. With Improved Metamagic you lower the cost of metamagicking that feat to its minimum, +1. Enhance, on the other hand can also be lowered via the same method to a cost of +1. Sure it costs feat wise, but the effects then become MUCH more favourable. (20d6 vs 1.5x10d6... hmmm, what to choose...) Any system with this much flexibility and number crunching is going to end up with a few pecularities. The advantages of taking Improved Metamagic three times are quite obvious. [i]Twinned, Repeating Greater Dispel Magic[/i] as a 8th level spell, for just one. Then the Enhance feat doesn't seem like so much waste of space for the damage dealing spells, either. One thing that has me wondering is the application of Heightened Spell and Improved Metamagic. Strikes me that you would get free heightened levels. So taking Improved Metamagic feat multiple times is also a method to keep up with those who only take Improved Spellcasting, and gain some extra flexibility with metamagic, at the cost of an extra high level spell slot. You could, with enough feat expenditure,cast a spell heightened to 20th level in a 10th level spell slot... [/QUOTE]

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