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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 274503" data-attributes="member: 5971">Lets say that you are correct, which I'm not sure you are.  Enhance spell wins over Empower ONLY on spells of LESS than 15 dice, and then only by small amounts.example 1:---fireball 10d6---enhance +10d6 (new base 20d6)---empower +10d6that = 30d6triple stacked empower = 10d6 x 2.5 = 25d630d6 vs 25d6empower losesexample 2:---cone of cold 15d6---enhanced +10d6 (new base 25d6)---empower +12.5d6that = 37.5d6triple stacked empower = 15d6 x 2.5 = 37.5d637.5d6 vs 37.5d6empower tiesexample 3:---chain lightning 20d6---enhanced +10d6 (new base 30d6)---empower +15d6that = 45d6triple stacked empower = 20d6 x 2.5 = 50d645d6 vs 50d6empower winsexample 4:---horrid wilting 25d8---enhanced +10d8 (new base 35d8)---empower +17.5d8that = 52.5d8triple stacked empower = 25d8 x 2.5 = 62.5d852.5d8 vs 62.5d8empower winsAlso note, for all those spells to get maximum effect of Enhance Spell feat your level must equal the dice of damage.  For example, for horrid wilting you must be 35th level, whereas for triple empowering you can be as low as 25th.I still put my money on Empower</blockquote>