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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 276380" data-attributes="member: 5971">We know Empower, Maximize, Twin, Chain, etc etc. affects only the base part of the spell because it is written somewhere (not in the feat descriptions itself) that ALL metamagic feats affect only the base spell.  Re-read the Empower Spell feat, no where in the description does it say "...affects base spell...".  As a matter of fact, just by reading Empower, you can't determine that if you use 2 empowers stacked, if the damage will be x2 or x2.25 (1.5 x 1.5).  Stacking metamagic is handled separately, not in the feat description itself.Again you cannot determine if any metamagic feat affects the base spell by only reading the feat description itself, unless it specifically says so, because it has been handled elsewhere.  Yet, that is what you are doing by reading into the Enhanced Spell feat.</blockquote>