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Message: <blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 302917" data-attributes="member: 96">Re: Re: Re: Is anybody actually reading my examples?You're right.  Enhance isn't a good option at low levels. It's for people who can actually make use of it.  You shouldn't run out and buy it at 21st level.However, let's compare our methods.  We'll assume for the sake of fairness that for some reason neither of us has purchased any metamagic feats before hitting 21st level. (Maybe we just really liked Spell Mastery?)21st level, we both buy Empower. So, we're equal.23rd level, we both buy Improved Metamagic. Still equal.For the next *15* feats we buy Improved Spell Capacity. Still equal.  And we're dealing metric ***-loads of damage - 918 hp on average.  But that's not enough!I take Maximize, and you snicker, because suddenly you're doing a lot more damage than me. Not a lot, but still: you wonder what I'm smoking.Next level, I show you what I'm smoking - I take Enhance spell while you take ISC again.You're stacking 18 empowers onto your Horrid Wilting, so you're doing 250d8 damage: 1125 points on average.I'm maximizing, enhancing, and stacking a mere 11 empowers onto mine. 280 + 192d8: 1146 damage.From here on out I will always do more damage than you. Every time you add Improved Spellcasting Capacity, so do I.  And every time you add 12.5d8 to your damage, I'm adding 17.5d8.  Every level I'm going to do 22.5 points of damage more than you on average.  Cumulative.But that's not enough.For my next feat, I add Improved Metamagic again.  You add Improved Spellcasting Capacity.  You're averaging 1181 damage now.  But that second Improved Metamagic feat let me stack on 2 more empowers.  Now I'm doing 1303 damage.  And I will continue to stay ahead of you for the reasons above.But that's not enough either.For my next feat, I add Enhance again. You add ISC. You do 1237. I do 1474.You add ISC. I add IMM. 1294 v 1676.From here on out it gets even sicker.  Every time I hit 10 levels over my damage cap, I add another Enhance - for the same cost you are adding Empowers.  Remember, each Empower is a feat you have to spend on Improved Spellcasting.  And each Enhance only increases the lead I have.So yeah, don't take it early.  But when it's time to take it, it blows Empower away.J</blockquote>

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