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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kibo" data-source="post: 317685" data-attributes="member: 5451">Things that don't make ya go hmmmHong, well he's not the only person on my ignore list for nothing.And Troll's don't ask insightful questions and then debate the merits of possible answers.  Trolls make patently moronic statments to get a head count of all the newbies, morons, and dweebs who feel compelled to show off.Something like "Come on, everyone knows Magret Weis invented D&D!" would be an nice obvious troll.  A more obvious troll would be, "Everyone knows Magret Thatcher wrote the best Dragonlance books!"  A cupcake isn't a fish, and calling a cupcake a fish doesn't give people a great deal of cause to take your ideas seriously.Too bad your application of said logic is limited to, "The book says you always get a reflex save, dispite not even discussing circumstances where this wouldn't make any sense, and besides, Hong is sooooo dreamy."Kia Lord on the other hand is saying, if the fireball detonates on impact and the arrow impacts enough to deal damage, then the fireball must explode on the surface of, if not actually inside of, the target, how does one escape from the blast but not the arrow in that circumstance?  One might assume that if your pc's were sleeping and a wizard came upon them and cast silence, darkness, and then fireball at them that they'd get a reflex save, probably without penalty.  "Well the book said so, and books are always complete and never wrong."  In short one might infer, should they be giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you're either being sarcastic, or trolling.  Ironic.  Should this be the case, kudos, well played.</blockquote>

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