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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5028641" data-attributes="member: 54707">That's an interesting concept. Knowing without knowing, perceiving without perceiving. Of course the magical space, or terrain as someone else originally mentioned it (in a different context) and thereafter gave me the idea for this, might involve heightened or overlapping sensations and states of existence and being (and perception). This would augment and amplify "psychological magic" without necessarily diminishing "physical magic."Yeah, I like Butcher's books. I've read them all. I'm not necessarily talking about "stepping into the Fairy world" as much as creating a space where normal reality and other realities overlap (and then trying to think of how that might affect this overlap space and the surrounding nearby normal terrain). But given your response I think you're sort headed down the same path, or at least in the same direction, as I'm considering, generally speaking.For instance in this overlap space or realm both matter and energy could be exercised in a  way that it could not be exercised in any of the original realms. For example within this overlap terrain mental images and ideas and objects could become real (the degree of reality being determined upon how much energy is given them, though other methods might also have other effects), psychological powers could be focused or concentrated (like laser beams), psychic battles could be fought, terrains could be modified in ways not possible in physical realities, time could fluctuate in different ways, illusions could be crated, and magic could itself be modified into new and novel forms. Depending on other factors such realms or spaces and the events transpiring within them or the forces being manipulated within them might then leak back out or be focused back out into the surrounding normal or mundane space or space/time.Mainly in a system like that I'd be interested in "impressing psychological and magical force" in a way that might be totally invisible or undetectable to many in the surrounding normal environment but that would still have effects which are both "real" and sometimes even unpredictable. The magically, psychically, and/or supernaturally sensitive would be able to perceive and to be influenced by such magical spaces, others might seem to ignore them completely, or to be only covertly or indirectly influenced by such magical spaces.In other respects I wonder would there be a natural relationship between levels of unpredictability and danger in the magical space and unpredictability and danger (types and degrees) in the mundane world, or would they operate on different principles of unpredictability, or would they even amplify possibly dangerous levels of unpredictability only when they overlap in operation? It would be interesting to play around with.But one thing that just occurred to me is that such a system would definitely add some of the 'magical feel" back into magical game systems and here is why I think that would be. 1. At any given point the unpredictable might occur.2. The atmosphere would be charged with magic, because the space being created is an overlap space of different realities and different potentialities instantly and potently interfacing and interacting.3. A lot of stuff would be occurring all at once, that is to say it wouldn't simply be an atmosphere of linearly based spell-executions, but rather more like a plethora-space in which an enormous number of forces are interacting and overlapping at once with any number of things being able to occur in ever changing "delimited fashion."4. A lot of separate forces would be simultaneously interacting with unforeseen results. For instance psychological forces would be interacting with magical forces with possible supernatural forces and beings with perhaps item-oriented (or space and object concentrated magical implements and tools) with sensory input and imaginings in a confused and excited environment. That is to say a spell wouldn't be thrown from beginning to end (moving form A to B to C in manner of execution), but it might change along the way, becoming stringer, less effective, or different (or maybe all of these things) as it progressed, interacted with other forces and powers, or was alerted by its shaper or by other parties (or maybe even by the magical space environment itself). Or in other words the magical space itself would always be at a high level or oscillation or excitement which would effect everything in the surrounding environment. (Spells might move from A to Q to M in execution, might oscillate in force and time, might adjust themselves in effect and function, or might even transform themselves into something wholly unanticipated. Magical powers might temporarily animate and become living beings or forces, might possess another, or dissolve into useful by-products or other items. A lot of possibilities could occur.)</blockquote>

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