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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4041601" data-attributes="member: 1054"><p>I thought I was on your ignore list. </p><p></p><p>IAE, there is a category of "open licenses", and there is a very specific license called "the Open Gaming License", which was issued by WOTC and to which they own the copyright. To claim that when they said "OGL", they were using a generic term, is much the same as claiming that the CEO of Kleenex corporation uses the name of his product generically. Further, while tissue paper is very common and comes in many brands, only one gaming license has achieved any kind of widespread use, and that is the the Open Gaming License issued by Wizards of the Coast. The poor analogy you keep using is taking 2d6 damage/round from being stretched so; do be a kind fellow and let it go.</p><p></p><p>Of course, this doesn't matter. 4e is not being released under the OGL, nor under any existing open license; WOTC has stated this outright, and has made it clear by changing the license name. A "free" license is not an "open" one; unless you believe words have no meaning, I do not see why you continue to blur the distinction. </p><p></p><p>(We haven't seen the GSL yet, and there's at least a slim chance it might conform to some loose definition of an 'open' license, but I really, really, doubt it, especially since WOTC chose to remove the word 'open', when they could have created a new license called the 'Open Fantasy License' or the 'Open Development License' or any other such variant which would not be a version of the OGL and thus would not be burdened by the 'any version' clause, which is their chief concern.)</p><p></p><p>I don't see why this is such a big deal for you. WOTC has the right to do whatever they wish with their intellectual property, and no one has any inherent right to it, and I do not think anyone is claiming that they do. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd love to know where this "loophole" meme came from WRT the original OGL, since the ability to print it all and sell it was *explicitly noted in WOTC's own FAQ*, which is still up on the net on Wizard's site and which I've linked to many times. Do you think if you keep repeating "loophole" often enough, people will conveniently forget the truth?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4041601, member: 1054"] I thought I was on your ignore list. IAE, there is a category of "open licenses", and there is a very specific license called "the Open Gaming License", which was issued by WOTC and to which they own the copyright. To claim that when they said "OGL", they were using a generic term, is much the same as claiming that the CEO of Kleenex corporation uses the name of his product generically. Further, while tissue paper is very common and comes in many brands, only one gaming license has achieved any kind of widespread use, and that is the the Open Gaming License issued by Wizards of the Coast. The poor analogy you keep using is taking 2d6 damage/round from being stretched so; do be a kind fellow and let it go. Of course, this doesn't matter. 4e is not being released under the OGL, nor under any existing open license; WOTC has stated this outright, and has made it clear by changing the license name. A "free" license is not an "open" one; unless you believe words have no meaning, I do not see why you continue to blur the distinction. (We haven't seen the GSL yet, and there's at least a slim chance it might conform to some loose definition of an 'open' license, but I really, really, doubt it, especially since WOTC chose to remove the word 'open', when they could have created a new license called the 'Open Fantasy License' or the 'Open Development License' or any other such variant which would not be a version of the OGL and thus would not be burdened by the 'any version' clause, which is their chief concern.) I don't see why this is such a big deal for you. WOTC has the right to do whatever they wish with their intellectual property, and no one has any inherent right to it, and I do not think anyone is claiming that they do. I'd love to know where this "loophole" meme came from WRT the original OGL, since the ability to print it all and sell it was *explicitly noted in WOTC's own FAQ*, which is still up on the net on Wizard's site and which I've linked to many times. Do you think if you keep repeating "loophole" often enough, people will conveniently forget the truth? [/QUOTE]
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