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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6345658" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Hey, Hussar: from 2000-2008 I played in not one, but two 3.x campaigns that went from 1st-14th level, and, through an extraordinary combination of skilled DMing and player restraint, avoided most of the commonly-noticed problems with 3e until the last few levels. </p><p></p><p>Mind you, we also went on to play 4e and found it a serious improvement over 3.5, as well - in fact (and here, I'll have the same problem as you in that people won't believe me), we were pleased with how much /faster/ combats were in 4e. And, I've played and DM'd 4e for its entire run with great success to levels as high as 26th, without the cracks showing like they did in 3e. </p><p></p><p>You just contradicted yourself. You said out of one side of your mouth that you were just speaking for yourself, and then out the other you imply that no, objections like yours rightly killed 4e, because you somehow represent 'the market.' </p><p></p><p>Sure, 4e was an ambitious, in retrospect ill-advised, gamble that tried to take D&D mainstream and make money on the scale of CCGs and MMOs and it failed /at that/. At 'catering to' a much larger market that D&D has consistently failed to penetrate since the end of the fad years. By that standard, every edition of D&D has failed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6345658, member: 996"] Hey, Hussar: from 2000-2008 I played in not one, but two 3.x campaigns that went from 1st-14th level, and, through an extraordinary combination of skilled DMing and player restraint, avoided most of the commonly-noticed problems with 3e until the last few levels. Mind you, we also went on to play 4e and found it a serious improvement over 3.5, as well - in fact (and here, I'll have the same problem as you in that people won't believe me), we were pleased with how much /faster/ combats were in 4e. And, I've played and DM'd 4e for its entire run with great success to levels as high as 26th, without the cracks showing like they did in 3e. You just contradicted yourself. You said out of one side of your mouth that you were just speaking for yourself, and then out the other you imply that no, objections like yours rightly killed 4e, because you somehow represent 'the market.' Sure, 4e was an ambitious, in retrospect ill-advised, gamble that tried to take D&D mainstream and make money on the scale of CCGs and MMOs and it failed /at that/. At 'catering to' a much larger market that D&D has consistently failed to penetrate since the end of the fad years. By that standard, every edition of D&D has failed. [/QUOTE]
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