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<blockquote data-quote="Savage Wombat" data-source="post: 6347410" data-attributes="member: 1932">OK, this is the thing.&nbsp; My mental picture of Daztur's train of thought (exaggerated for effect):&quot;That sure was an interesting thing my friend said about that MMORPG feeling more like 'war' than a 'game'.&quot;&quot;Hmm.&nbsp; I've played in D&amp;D games that feel more like 'war' than a 'game'.&quot;&quot;You know, some of the people I've heard from who dislike 4e say it feels too 'gamey'.&quot;&quot;I wonder if that's the same thing?&nbsp; I'll think on this some more.&quot;Now, this is just my perception, but I think he was attempting a description of 4e that would explain that reaction.&nbsp; And it happened to be a description you disagreed with.This is not the same as saying &quot;4e sux because...&quot;.&nbsp; But you seem to be determined to interpret his statement in that way.Now, in this particular thread, I've been trying very hard to avoid mentioning editions at all - since, as demonstrated, a lot of the criticisms of any edition are not based in solid fact.&nbsp; But I do think the concept of CaW/CaS has some interesting aspects, so I wanted to discuss it.&nbsp; But the reactions I get from the &quot;veterans of the edition wars&quot; seem to be based in the assumption that I am continuing to attack their preferred game regardless of what I actually say.&nbsp; And several posters have bashed the concept solely on what they think Daztur, or I, meant instead of what he or I said.&nbsp; A pet peeve of mine.So, I dispute the charge that Daztur's post was an extension of the edition war, and feel that the edition war was unfairly dragged into the whole debate.And I apologize in advance if this is the post that gets the thread closed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Savage Wombat, post: 6347410, member: 1932"] OK, this is the thing. My mental picture of Daztur's train of thought (exaggerated for effect): "That sure was an interesting thing my friend said about that MMORPG feeling more like 'war' than a 'game'." "Hmm. I've played in D&D games that feel more like 'war' than a 'game'." "You know, some of the people I've heard from who dislike 4e say it feels too 'gamey'." "I wonder if that's the same thing? I'll think on this some more." Now, this is just my perception, but I think he was attempting a description of 4e that would explain that reaction. And it happened to be a description you disagreed with. This is not the same as saying "4e sux because...". But you seem to be determined to interpret his statement in that way. Now, in this particular thread, I've been trying very hard to avoid mentioning editions at all - since, as demonstrated, a lot of the criticisms of any edition are not based in solid fact. But I do think the concept of CaW/CaS has some interesting aspects, so I wanted to discuss it. But the reactions I get from the "veterans of the edition wars" seem to be based in the assumption that I am continuing to attack their preferred game regardless of what I actually say. And several posters have bashed the concept solely on what they [I]think [/I]Daztur, or I, [I]meant [/I]instead of what he or I [I]said[/I]. A pet peeve of mine. So, I dispute the charge that Daztur's post was an extension of the edition war, and feel that the edition war was unfairly dragged into the whole debate. And I apologize in advance if this is the post that gets the thread closed. [/QUOTE]

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