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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Billboard Baggins" data-source="post: 42194" data-attributes="member: 1981">Torture and ALignmentI always have a hard time with implementing alignment. First the question always arises is alignment based on a strict literal code (no torture no matter what) or is it situational (no torture except under some nebulous set of circumstances and you really shouldn't be enjoying it). People in the real world can't resolve that one, why would us poor gamers have a better insight?Then I always have a problem with alignment because gamers ALWAYS metagame. We insert the morals/ethics we have been taught into a fantasy game and expect 21st century urban "alignments" to make sense in a cave fighting a dragon's minions with magic. Example - killing and torture = a bad thing. Not so - to many groups killing is a great thing to do, and those who are not a member of your group = faird game to do whatever. I have to mention this, but this kind of thinking is why we have such trouble understanding fanatics such as the Al Quedal or the skinheads. To us, what they do is Evil (the big E from above). To them what they do if Good (big G) and what we do is Evil. How do you resolve that?In a fantasy world with real gods interacting with the universe, alignment MUST be relative (if alignment flows from the god). If you worship god X, who's aspects include rage, fighting, and the rape of defenseless animals, you would be LG FOR YOUR GOD if you went around mad, fighting, and raping defenseless animals. To followers of a god wit hte aspects of peace and animal protection, you are CE, no question. See where I'm going? To be really more accurate and workable, all alignment items and spells should take into consideration who's using them and what god is involved. Thus a sword that slays all LG wielders must be reinterpreted as a LG slaying sword of god X... so whomever picks it up is evaluated for alignment with respect to the appropriate god or pantheon. You might be a CN follower of God Z, but touch that sword, undergo instant evaluation, and you might just keel over dead.- Billboard Baggins</blockquote>

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