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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 9697222" data-attributes="member: 6802951">If a spell has secondary targets, such as GFB's fire leaping to another creature, or Chromatic Orb's bounce, it wouldn't be a valid choice to cast with Warcaster.The trick of course is that at the point of casting Chromatic Orb, you do not know that there could be one or more targets.With Green Flame Blade, you don't have to target another creature, the wording just says you can. So you could choose to use GFB with Warcaster by not specifying the secondary target.Interestingly, Chromatic Orb does not include the voluntary language: if the spell bounces, it bounces. This isn't usually an issue if you run out of bad guys before bounces, because you could always specify harmless objects as the targets, but it is an issue when used with Warcaster because it sets up a potential paradox where the spell could not have been cast after it was cast.I would allow GFB to be used with Warcaster as long as there was no other "creature or object targeted by an attack roll, forced to make a saving throw by an effect, or selected to receive the effects of a spell". With Chromatic Orb, I'd probably decide in the player's favour, and say that it is a valid spell to use with Warcaster, but if cast using that ability, it will never bounce.</blockquote>