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Interesting post over at Grognardia today regarding Gail Gygax
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<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 4599176" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>To be quite honest, I don't believe sales are a primary factor for Gail as much as respect for Gary's work. I have no clue how much either of them made (and it's none of our business) it but my guess would be that Gail was the primary breadwinner of the family. Really, even for a guy like Gary, the print gaming world is not very lucrative. </p><p></p><p>Let's face it, while Gary wanted to make a profit he did what he wanted--most of his efforts before he agreed to do CZ were focused on his own creations. As a fan of Gary the writer rather than Gary the D&D creator, I wouldn't care if Gail decided to just print-to-order Gary's unpublished LA stuff or other manuscripts that were 100% Gary. (And like I've said in other threads, there's several things Gary wrote that are completed unlike CZ).</p><p></p><p>One other thing I should point out. Where did this idea come from that Jeff T. is the "annointed one", the only one who can interpret Gary's vision for Castle Zagyg? Granted, he did a great job and Gary was proud of him. But, it seems like fans think he was passed an official rede and edict, with Gary saying "Jeff, you are the Rock upon which you will build the Castle of Zagyg". It seems that fans are making that interpretation rather than anything Gary said.</p><p></p><p>If the procedure was like stuff done in the past for Trigee, which I do have knowledge of--Gary would have received manuscripts, reviewed, and edited that, then sent back. So at minimum Trigee would have all those notes. </p><p></p><p>And Gary trusted other people. Those two people Gail mentioned, Spenser and Jon, worked a lot with Gary on LA. If anybody knows Jon Creffield's track record, he worked with TLG before, on Hall of Many Panes, Slayers Guide, etc--and he's worked with Gary since the very late 1990s. There are other authors Gary trusted besides Jeff---and not just Mentzer and his sons. There's no "crown prince" heir to Gary's work or anything like that.</p><p></p><p>And to be perfectly frank, even if the contract with TLG wasn't canceled, and even if Jeff didn't leave the project--Gary is still dead. I suspect the deeper you go into the dungeons the more "interpretive" it's gonna be, depending on how much Gary was able to flesh out his bible. So no matter who does it, it will always be judged like that, much like the movie A.I. was judged because Steven Spielburg was trying to finish a Stanley Kubrik film.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 4599176, member: 2732"] To be quite honest, I don't believe sales are a primary factor for Gail as much as respect for Gary's work. I have no clue how much either of them made (and it's none of our business) it but my guess would be that Gail was the primary breadwinner of the family. Really, even for a guy like Gary, the print gaming world is not very lucrative. Let's face it, while Gary wanted to make a profit he did what he wanted--most of his efforts before he agreed to do CZ were focused on his own creations. As a fan of Gary the writer rather than Gary the D&D creator, I wouldn't care if Gail decided to just print-to-order Gary's unpublished LA stuff or other manuscripts that were 100% Gary. (And like I've said in other threads, there's several things Gary wrote that are completed unlike CZ). One other thing I should point out. Where did this idea come from that Jeff T. is the "annointed one", the only one who can interpret Gary's vision for Castle Zagyg? Granted, he did a great job and Gary was proud of him. But, it seems like fans think he was passed an official rede and edict, with Gary saying "Jeff, you are the Rock upon which you will build the Castle of Zagyg". It seems that fans are making that interpretation rather than anything Gary said. If the procedure was like stuff done in the past for Trigee, which I do have knowledge of--Gary would have received manuscripts, reviewed, and edited that, then sent back. So at minimum Trigee would have all those notes. And Gary trusted other people. Those two people Gail mentioned, Spenser and Jon, worked a lot with Gary on LA. If anybody knows Jon Creffield's track record, he worked with TLG before, on Hall of Many Panes, Slayers Guide, etc--and he's worked with Gary since the very late 1990s. There are other authors Gary trusted besides Jeff---and not just Mentzer and his sons. There's no "crown prince" heir to Gary's work or anything like that. And to be perfectly frank, even if the contract with TLG wasn't canceled, and even if Jeff didn't leave the project--Gary is still dead. I suspect the deeper you go into the dungeons the more "interpretive" it's gonna be, depending on how much Gary was able to flesh out his bible. So no matter who does it, it will always be judged like that, much like the movie A.I. was judged because Steven Spielburg was trying to finish a Stanley Kubrik film. [/QUOTE]
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