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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rabindranath72" data-source="post: 2388761" data-attributes="member: 34007">My choice was not "arbitrary". It was an expected time, expectation being taken on a typical mid/high-level (15th) character, with at least one class choice. And just to respond to your preemptive questions, it is based on MANY, MANY character creation sessions. A sufficient number to have a sufficient statistic and decent credibility intervals for the whole process. The expected time, always for your information, is about 45 minutes, with a 95% credibility interval of about 10 minutes.Since you admit to never have prepared an high level character, please add to the 18 minutes cited above, the time to:1) choose feats and resolve all feat chains2) choose skills3) determine the relevant skill bonuses4) evaluate skill synergy bonuses5) evaluate skill bonuses due to feats6) (optional: differentiate from class and cross class skills, if you have more than one class)7) evaluate the saving throw bonuses from class and feats8) do not forget to increase the stats every four levels, so you may possibly have to return to point 3) to recalculate (I suppose you already choose in advance all the skills and the classes)9) choose equipment and magic items based on character level10) check all the steps, since this process is error-prone...surely I forgot something along.Oh, this is for a plain-vanilla cleric. But wouldn't you slap a template or two, or add some prestige class in-between, just for fun?Obviously, you must make sensed choices all along. I guess that if you picked each item randomly, you could cut about 15 minutes. Still, you would have to pass through steps 3) to 7) to make all things balance out.I am really, really curious to look at how you make a mid level character in five minutes or less. I would like to learn your techniques, perhaps I may clean the tons of dust on my 3e books.Best regards,Antonio EleuteriOh, Mr. Analytic here has a PhD in Statistics. So, when I speak about numbers, I know what I am speaking about, on the contrary of some others.</blockquote>

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