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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 2389430" data-attributes="member: 5143">Not REQUIRED, but wanted.&nbsp; I don't know about you, but we've always used minis even when playing 1st edition and 2nd edition, that didn't change for 3rd edition.Every once in a while when a battle was easy, we'd run it it without any minis.&nbsp; However, if it was at all complicated, our DMs got annoyed at answering &quot;Where am I again?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;How close am I to the enemies?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Where is the fighter in relation to me?&quot;&nbsp; So they'd put minis down to help people visualize.I, as a DM, got annoyed at players continually coming up with new tactical maneuvers that I'd have to invent rules for.&nbsp; So, when I didn't allow them to do tactical maneuvers in order to speed up the game, battles became &quot;I hit for 20&quot; &quot;He hits you for 13&quot; &quot;I hit him for 10&quot;.Since I've been playing and running 3rd ed, my players have been happier, they love to explore the combat options.&nbsp; I find that combat holds their interest longer and there are less people leaving the room while waiting for their turn or wandering off to the bathroom and saying &quot;you can just roll for me, I have +12 to hit and do 1d6+10 damage&quot;.&nbsp; My players feel their decisions are more important and there are more ways to show the personality of their character in their combat styles.And since, likely 80% of the game is combat, the other 20% is role playing, making the combat portion more interesting is good, IMHO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 2389430, member: 5143"] Not REQUIRED, but wanted. I don't know about you, but we've always used minis even when playing 1st edition and 2nd edition, that didn't change for 3rd edition. Every once in a while when a battle was easy, we'd run it it without any minis. However, if it was at all complicated, our DMs got annoyed at answering "Where am I again?" "How close am I to the enemies?" "Where is the fighter in relation to me?" So they'd put minis down to help people visualize. I, as a DM, got annoyed at players continually coming up with new tactical maneuvers that I'd have to invent rules for. So, when I didn't allow them to do tactical maneuvers in order to speed up the game, battles became "I hit for 20" "He hits you for 13" "I hit him for 10". Since I've been playing and running 3rd ed, my players have been happier, they love to explore the combat options. I find that combat holds their interest longer and there are less people leaving the room while waiting for their turn or wandering off to the bathroom and saying "you can just roll for me, I have +12 to hit and do 1d6+10 damage". My players feel their decisions are more important and there are more ways to show the personality of their character in their combat styles. And since, likely 80% of the game is combat, the other 20% is role playing, making the combat portion more interesting is good, IMHO. [/QUOTE]

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