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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2428257" data-attributes="member: 22882">I'd say that the preponderance of games you play revolved around those ideas.I suppose the huge (in the US, the largest, last I checked) sports game market is somehow excepted, as are the fighting, puzzle and sim genres, along with all the other games to which this does not apply.  Those constitute, if not a majority, only a very small minority.For that matter, I strongly question whether those elements come from RPGs or wargames in any form.  Perhaps the original platform jumpers and rail shooters took the concept of 'powerups' from RPGs; I'm not sure.  Other pre-electronic games (such as, say, chess?) allow you to improve your 'playing piece' by completing a certain objective.  Regardless of its antediluvian ancestry, the concept of powerups came to the video game market by way of platformers and shooters and became nigh ubiquitous on the strength of their influence.  I'd say Half-Life 2 derives far more from Mario than from D&D in this respect.Capture the flag predates RPGs and presumably even formal wargames.Hack-n-slash in a game does indeed come from RPGs and wargames, I suppose.Solve-the-puzzle comes from, y'know, puzzle based games.  Like crossword puzzles, mazes, that sort of thing?  Predates RPGs.  We've already covered powerups.I'm not sure how much success WotC is having at this, but I certainly wish them the best.  Sales are down from the phenomenal heights of the 3.0 core books, to be sure, but we'll see how things shake out.I agree it's a valid goal.  It does, however, seem to me that WotC is making more of an attempt to recruit from the ranks of miniatures wargamers and CCG players, and that, too is a valid goal - perhaps a more obtainable one.I accept D&D as rules-heavy.  d20, stripped of D&Disms, is really only rules-medium.Anyway, I agree with your general point, even though your assessment of electronic gaming remains wildly off-base. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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