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<blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4523559" data-attributes="member: 44797">Thank you all for the tips!&nbsp; I've decided to follow the &quot;many commands, but only one at a time&quot; concept.&nbsp; I have some questions.My character is True Neutral, and he's been feeling for a long time that he has been pushing a good agenda.&nbsp; He is very eager at this point to darken his tactics a little.That actually sounds viable, but I cannot find anything on how to create ghouls.&nbsp; Control Undead is too fleeting.&nbsp; I can't rebuke undead.&nbsp; Is there any other way?I don't have Libris Mortis, but Awaken Undead sounds promising.&nbsp; What level spell is it?&nbsp; And does it apply problematic limitations (such as the undead go out of my control or become disobedient)?Yeah, I'm starting to feel that way.&nbsp; It means both my ideas fail -- the hobgoblin zombies cannot remember their hideout, and the family cannot remember who attacked them.I'm glad I'm not playing second edition, then!&nbsp; But thanks for that, it serves as a good guide.&nbsp; I've been trying to limit myself to single sentences, but it seems that I've packed in too much.&nbsp; I'm going to rewrite the commands to be more phrase-like.&nbsp; How about this: &quot;As a group, seek out and kill any hobgoblins you find, returning their corpses and possessions here.&quot;&nbsp; I would use that on both the zombie family &amp; zombie hobgoblins.That brings up a new question.&nbsp; Are clerics aware of their undead?&nbsp; Will the cleric know when the zombies are destroyed?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aboyd, post: 4523559, member: 44797"] Thank you all for the tips! I've decided to follow the "many commands, but only one at a time" concept. I have some questions. My character is True Neutral, and he's been feeling for a long time that he has been pushing a good agenda. He is very eager at this point to darken his tactics a little. That actually sounds viable, but I cannot find anything on how to create ghouls. Control Undead is too fleeting. I can't rebuke undead. Is there any other way? I don't have Libris Mortis, but Awaken Undead sounds promising. What level spell is it? And does it apply problematic limitations (such as the undead go out of my control or become disobedient)? Yeah, I'm starting to feel that way. It means both my ideas fail -- the hobgoblin zombies cannot remember their hideout, and the family cannot remember who attacked them. I'm glad I'm not playing second edition, then! But thanks for that, it serves as a good guide. I've been trying to limit myself to single sentences, but it seems that I've packed in too much. I'm going to rewrite the commands to be more phrase-like. How about this: "As a group, seek out and kill any hobgoblins you find, returning their corpses and possessions here." I would use that on both the zombie family & zombie hobgoblins. That brings up a new question. Are clerics aware of their undead? Will the cleric know when the zombies are destroyed? [/QUOTE]

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