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<blockquote data-quote="Dei" data-source="post: 3209933" data-attributes="member: 40300"><p>In my campaign interaction such as you described leads to an automatic success on a disbelief save so someone leaping through the blade barrier would automatically see it as illusiory though others around him would not.</p><p></p><p>For other, less obvious interactions such as a wet object being made to appear dry the save is not automatic but does get a bonus. This save is the character deciding wether to believe their eyes and dismiss the evidence of their other senses or vice versa. If they fail they are assumed to have said, "I must have been mistaken, it's obviously dry." and should be played as though the interaction that caused the failed disbelief save had never taken place i.e. they still percieve the illusion as real. For those observing an automaticly passing interaction such as leaping through your blade barrier perhaps a spot check would be called for to determine what or if they would recieve a bonus to their own disbelief save.</p><p></p><p>It's quite a discretionary method with a lot riding in the DM's hands so it's not suitable to every table but usually a DM can judge what bonus to give on a disbelief save fairly easily. i.e. +5 or +10 for wet surface vs dry image and perhaps +15 or +20 for iced over lake vs grassy meadow image.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dei, post: 3209933, member: 40300"] In my campaign interaction such as you described leads to an automatic success on a disbelief save so someone leaping through the blade barrier would automatically see it as illusiory though others around him would not. For other, less obvious interactions such as a wet object being made to appear dry the save is not automatic but does get a bonus. This save is the character deciding wether to believe their eyes and dismiss the evidence of their other senses or vice versa. If they fail they are assumed to have said, "I must have been mistaken, it's obviously dry." and should be played as though the interaction that caused the failed disbelief save had never taken place i.e. they still percieve the illusion as real. For those observing an automaticly passing interaction such as leaping through your blade barrier perhaps a spot check would be called for to determine what or if they would recieve a bonus to their own disbelief save. It's quite a discretionary method with a lot riding in the DM's hands so it's not suitable to every table but usually a DM can judge what bonus to give on a disbelief save fairly easily. i.e. +5 or +10 for wet surface vs dry image and perhaps +15 or +20 for iced over lake vs grassy meadow image. [/QUOTE]
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