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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3213782" data-attributes="member: 1465">I think it's quite simple...If the character tries to walk through the barrier, he is probably trying to avoid the blades like they were real*. On a failed ST to disbelieve, he's just going to think that he took no damage because he avoided the blades successfully.It could happen that the player saw himself rolling very low on the ST, and thought that it was a Reflex ST to avoid damage, and then having a metagame epiphany and realize that he couldn't really have avoided damage with such low ST roll. It's not terribly metagaming anyway, and you can easily say that the character might have realized he was clumsy against the blade and actually saw some blades hitting him and passing through. He still cannot SEE the illusion, but maybe he's going to try and pass through it voluntarily failling the next &quot;Reflex&quot; ST, this time getting incontrovertible truth that there is no barrier.It just means that sometimes a big failure against an illusion can reveal the illusion itself, hence being more beneficial than a &quot;success&quot;. I don't see this being a problem, it's like someone falling down into a pit of illusionary lava because he failed him jump, and getting proof that he wouldn't have got if he jumped better.Think of the scenario like in Indiana Jones &amp; The Last Crusade, when Indy walks the invisible bridge &quot;by faith&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 3213782, member: 1465"] I think it's quite simple... If the character tries to walk through the barrier, he is probably trying to avoid the blades like they were real*. On a failed ST to disbelieve, he's just going to think that he took no damage because he avoided the blades successfully. It could happen that the player saw himself rolling very low on the ST, and thought that it was a Reflex ST to avoid damage, and then having a metagame epiphany and realize that he couldn't really have avoided damage with such low ST roll. It's not terribly metagaming anyway, and you can easily say that the character might have realized he was clumsy against the blade and actually saw some blades hitting him and passing through. He still cannot SEE the illusion, but maybe he's going to try and pass through it voluntarily failling the next "Reflex" ST, this time getting incontrovertible truth that there is no barrier. It just means that sometimes a big failure against an illusion can reveal the illusion itself, hence being more beneficial than a "success". I don't see this being a problem, it's like someone falling down into a pit of illusionary lava because he failed him jump, and getting proof that he wouldn't have got if he jumped better. Think of the scenario like in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade, when Indy walks the invisible bridge "by faith". :) [/QUOTE]

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