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<blockquote data-quote="Jaelommiss" data-source="post: 6632614" data-attributes="member: 6775925"><p>Is an Open Hand monk's flurry of blows bonus damage with an effect, or an effect with bonus damage? What about a paladin's smite spells?</p><p></p><p>It'll entirely depend on the situation. When you need to put that dragon down NOW to stop it unleashing another breath weapon on the party, the damage is what matters. When you need to stop the max HP assassin getting away with the magic staff of quest completion, being able to knock him to the ground is far more important than an extra 1d8 damage.</p><p></p><p>I've started playing a spell-less ranger and I've already used maneuvers for both damage and effects in the first session. During an orc ambush at night I used a maneuver (I don't remember which one) for the extra damage to kill their leader. Later on we were walking carefully along a ledge over a deep pit. Darkmantles attacked us and surrounded us in magical darkness. I used a trip attack there to get rid of the thing so we could see again. The damage was unimportant compared to the effect of knocking it prone so it would fall into the pit away from us. (Incidentally, I missed. It then grabbed my head and pulled me into the pit and unconsciousness.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelommiss, post: 6632614, member: 6775925"] Is an Open Hand monk's flurry of blows bonus damage with an effect, or an effect with bonus damage? What about a paladin's smite spells? It'll entirely depend on the situation. When you need to put that dragon down NOW to stop it unleashing another breath weapon on the party, the damage is what matters. When you need to stop the max HP assassin getting away with the magic staff of quest completion, being able to knock him to the ground is far more important than an extra 1d8 damage. I've started playing a spell-less ranger and I've already used maneuvers for both damage and effects in the first session. During an orc ambush at night I used a maneuver (I don't remember which one) for the extra damage to kill their leader. Later on we were walking carefully along a ledge over a deep pit. Darkmantles attacked us and surrounded us in magical darkness. I used a trip attack there to get rid of the thing so we could see again. The damage was unimportant compared to the effect of knocking it prone so it would fall into the pit away from us. (Incidentally, I missed. It then grabbed my head and pulled me into the pit and unconsciousness.) [/QUOTE]
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