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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 7016353" data-attributes="member: 6701872">There are multiple types of frustration, some of which are &quot;good&quot;, and some of which are &quot;bad.&quot; For example, being frustrated because a particular challenge is requiring all of your skill/wit to overcome is often good because finally overcoming the challenge, thus alleviating the frustration, is a cathartic experience. But being frustrated because a particular thing entirely outside your ability to actually control, because it can happen despite dedicating all your skill/wit to trying to prevent it, has a large negative effect upon you is pretty much never good because the response to eventually getting through it is not &quot;I did it!&quot; so much as it is &quot;&lt;expletive deleted&gt; finally!&quot;And when you consider that the only way to actually prevent random encounters from happening during your long rest is to have a specific sort of character in the party with a specific sort of magic which isn't available until a certain level, because anything short of magic could fail to prevent an encounter, it becomes clear that the challenge (using the word loosely) of taking a long rest is very capable of ending up being the later sort of frustration - the one where players get no catharsis from it, just more and more frustration as it continues to happen, and more resentment for their DM who has elected to alter the rules of the game to achieve the conditions necessary to cause this specific frustration in the first place.That's not a relevant analogue because a long rest is a rectangle, while sleep is a square, and all the break-in bear has done is turn the square into a rectangle, unless the interruption caused lasted at least an hour.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 7016353, member: 6701872"] There are multiple types of frustration, some of which are "good", and some of which are "bad." For example, being frustrated because a particular challenge is requiring all of your skill/wit to overcome is often good because finally overcoming the challenge, thus alleviating the frustration, is a cathartic experience. But being frustrated because a particular thing entirely outside your ability to actually control, because it can happen despite dedicating all your skill/wit to trying to prevent it, has a large negative effect upon you is pretty much never good because the response to eventually getting through it is not "I did it!" so much as it is "<expletive deleted> finally!" And when you consider that the only way to actually prevent random encounters from happening during your long rest is to have a specific sort of character in the party with a specific sort of magic which isn't available until a certain level, because anything short of magic could fail to prevent an encounter, it becomes clear that the challenge (using the word loosely) of taking a long rest is very capable of ending up being the later sort of frustration - the one where players get no catharsis from it, just more and more frustration as it continues to happen, and more resentment for their DM who has elected to alter the rules of the game to achieve the conditions necessary to cause this specific frustration in the first place. That's not a relevant analogue because a long rest is a rectangle, while sleep is a square, and all the break-in bear has done is turn the square into a rectangle, unless the interruption caused lasted at least an hour. [/QUOTE]

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