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<blockquote data-quote="Zog" data-source="post: 233579" data-attributes="member: 5083">Do any of you actually play Wizards?Give the poor wizards a break folks!All Wizards and sorcerers can do is cast spells.&nbsp; Don't take away their one ability but making it nigh impossible for them to safely cast a spell.&nbsp; Its like saying that everytime a fighter attacks, they have a chance to drop their sword.&nbsp; I have to weigh in here and say - nothing is broken!&nbsp; Yes, it is hard to stop wizards from casting spells, GOOD!&nbsp; They fire off their few spells, and then are cut down by the party.&nbsp; Most of the time in the games I'm in, it simply isn't worth it try and disrupt a spellcaster - just hit them!&nbsp; A few solid hits and they are dead.&nbsp; Heck, one or two solid hits at level 1-3 and they are dead.When I was playing a sorcerer, I was scared as heck of anyone getting close to me.&nbsp; The DM had bad guys move around my companions (taking AOO) just to close and hit me.&nbsp; I was trying everything to keep my distance, and NEVER provoke an AOO.&nbsp; You simply do not have the hitpoints.&nbsp; At most levels, fighting average monsters of said level, two or three hits is the most you can take.&nbsp; I had good hit points (51 at level 12) and was still in mortal danger after one or two hits.&nbsp; Yes, even with counterspelling it is hard to shut down a spellcaster.&nbsp; And again, I say GOOD!&nbsp; As a player, it really sucks when you fail a concentrate check or get counterspelled.&nbsp; Your contribution to the party for the round was a bust.&nbsp; AND you have lost one of your few precious spells.&nbsp; A fighter can miss and miss and miss, and geez, bad luck.&nbsp; If the spellcaster is interupted three times in a row, they are either dead, or running low on useful spells and Out of the Fight.And when facing enemy spellcasters - your options are limited.&nbsp; Even one on one, your best bet is to hit them hard and drop them fast, and not waste time with trying to interupt.&nbsp; If for some reason you have nothing better to do, sure, ready an attack or partial charge/attack or 5' move an attack or grapple or trip.&nbsp; Otherwise, hit 'em hard and hope you make your save!Just my two cents - had to toss in a counter arguement.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zog, post: 233579, member: 5083"] [b]Do any of you actually play Wizards?[/b] Give the poor wizards a break folks! All Wizards and sorcerers can do is cast spells. Don't take away their one ability but making it nigh impossible for them to safely cast a spell. Its like saying that everytime a fighter attacks, they have a chance to drop their sword. I have to weigh in here and say - nothing is broken! Yes, it is hard to stop wizards from casting spells, GOOD! They fire off their few spells, and then are cut down by the party. Most of the time in the games I'm in, it simply isn't worth it try and disrupt a spellcaster - just hit them! A few solid hits and they are dead. Heck, one or two solid hits at level 1-3 and they are dead. When I was playing a sorcerer, I was scared as heck of anyone getting close to me. The DM had bad guys move around my companions (taking AOO) just to close and hit me. I was trying everything to keep my distance, and NEVER provoke an AOO. You simply do not have the hitpoints. At most levels, fighting average monsters of said level, two or three hits is the most you can take. I had good hit points (51 at level 12) and was still in mortal danger after one or two hits. Yes, even with counterspelling it is hard to shut down a spellcaster. And again, I say GOOD! As a player, it really sucks when you fail a concentrate check or get counterspelled. Your contribution to the party for the round was a bust. AND you have lost one of your few precious spells. A fighter can miss and miss and miss, and geez, bad luck. If the spellcaster is interupted three times in a row, they are either dead, or running low on useful spells and Out of the Fight. And when facing enemy spellcasters - your options are limited. Even one on one, your best bet is to hit them hard and drop them fast, and not waste time with trying to interupt. If for some reason you have nothing better to do, sure, ready an attack or partial charge/attack or 5' move an attack or grapple or trip. Otherwise, hit 'em hard and hope you make your save! Just my two cents - had to toss in a counter arguement. :) [/QUOTE]

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