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<blockquote data-quote="pepticburrito" data-source="post: 6799988" data-attributes="member: 6780442">In 3.5/3.75 save DCs scaled with modifier.&nbsp; The modifier was expected by the game designers to progress rather nicely via magic items.&nbsp; Magic item progression were assumed in the stat blocks of NPCs.&nbsp; Effectively, save DC scaled with level in 3.5/3.75.&nbsp; The result of this is shown the PFSRD <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/monsterCreation.html" target="_blank">http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/monsterCreation.html</a>Notice, the difference between a good save and bad save in 3.75 maxes out at +5.&nbsp; I suspect the fact that proficiency system in 5e has been highly influenced by intended balance in 3.5.&nbsp; It has all the additional assumptions removed, from magic items to starting modifier differences, and it's laid out in a simple progression.The biggest difference is that spell save DC doesn't depend on spell level in 5e.&nbsp; This makes lower level spells a more relevant as you progress.&nbsp; I can see lots of balance reasons for doing in, especially in the context of how magic was reworked in 5e vs 3.5.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pepticburrito, post: 6799988, member: 6780442"] In 3.5/3.75 save DCs scaled with modifier. The modifier was expected by the game designers to progress rather nicely via magic items. Magic item progression were assumed in the stat blocks of NPCs. Effectively, save DC scaled with level in 3.5/3.75. The result of this is shown the PFSRD [url]http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/monsterCreation.html[/url] Notice, the difference between a good save and bad save in 3.75 maxes out at +5. I suspect the fact that proficiency system in 5e has been highly influenced by intended balance in 3.5. It has all the additional assumptions removed, from magic items to starting modifier differences, and it's laid out in a simple progression. The biggest difference is that spell save DC doesn't depend on spell level in 5e. This makes lower level spells a more relevant as you progress. I can see lots of balance reasons for doing in, especially in the context of how magic was reworked in 5e vs 3.5. [/QUOTE]

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