Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6309705" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, that's the point Rem.&nbsp; There is no evidence either way.&nbsp; Trying to claim that there was, in any direction, doesn't actually prove anything.&nbsp; All we have is anecdote.&nbsp; I mean, if we want to pull up experience, of the 20 or 30 people I gamed with regularly in the 80's (not at the same time obviously - different groups), I'm the only one who is still in the hobby.&nbsp; So, it's not like losing large numbers of gamers hasn't been a thing all the way along.Mistwell claimed, &quot;Not all conjecture is equal, and yours is not sound. We have a lot of data from those years, and &quot;bad DMing&quot; didn't even make the top 50 reasons people left. They had strong sales for many years, they did surveys, and they know a big part was the rise of video games and the changes in society that led away from tabeltop gaming in general. Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=6309691#ixzz33deDMwq3&quot;which is simply not true.&nbsp; Not for B/X D&amp;D anyway.&nbsp; The rise of video games?&nbsp; In 1983?&nbsp; I highly doubt it.&nbsp; Console games were just getting started and computer games were in their infancy.&nbsp; Hardly something that was going to come up and crush the D&amp;D juggernaut at the height of the fad.&nbsp; In the 90's, when those studies were done?&nbsp; Sure, I'd buy that.&nbsp; But I really don't think you can point to Pac Man as the reason people stopped playing B/X back in the day.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6309705, member: 22779"] But, that's the point Rem. There is no evidence either way. Trying to claim that there was, in any direction, doesn't actually prove anything. All we have is anecdote. I mean, if we want to pull up experience, of the 20 or 30 people I gamed with regularly in the 80's (not at the same time obviously - different groups), I'm the only one who is still in the hobby. So, it's not like losing large numbers of gamers hasn't been a thing all the way along. Mistwell claimed, "Not all conjecture is equal, and yours is not sound. We have a lot of data from those years, and "bad DMing" didn't even make the top 50 reasons people left. They had strong sales for many years, they did surveys, and they know a big part was the rise of video games and the changes in society that led away from tabeltop gaming in general. Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6309691#ixzz33deDMwq3" which is simply not true. Not for B/X D&D anyway. The rise of video games? In 1983? I highly doubt it. Console games were just getting started and computer games were in their infancy. Hardly something that was going to come up and crush the D&D juggernaut at the height of the fad. In the 90's, when those studies were done? Sure, I'd buy that. But I really don't think you can point to Pac Man as the reason people stopped playing B/X back in the day. [/QUOTE]

Verification