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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadowoflameth" data-source="post: 4819849" data-attributes="member: 62336">Intimidate in CombatIntimidating a foe is a standard action, and yes, there is a -5 penalty to do it in combat. Unless you had the good fortune to happen upon a hostile otyough or whatever already bloodied, you are in combat in this scenario. If it's a level four creature and the DC is set at the hard end of the suggestions in the DMG, (which I have found in the last year to be pretty do-able for a min/maxed character) then you have 4 level +10 or 14 with -5 to your roll for in combat and -5 more for no language, and it only affects one creature, not so the otyough, not it's orc keepers or whatever. In effect your roll +21 would need to be 3 or higher with what must be all your resources in intimidate. Pretty reliable, but I don't image you have much else in the way of items at that level, and how to pull your weight getting the thing bloodied in the first place?</blockquote>