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<blockquote data-quote="Chris Knapp" data-source="post: 4819991" data-attributes="member: 65116">I have used Intimidate a few times, and seen it used by others at the table, but we all have failed; haven't seen a success yet so haven't seen how my DM's handle it. Personally, its just asking for an errata since its the only skill with an opposed check versus a defense. All other opposed checks are against other skills. Moreover, the very nature of an opposed check indicates that the opponent is supposed to roll too: Stealth vs. Perception, Bluff vs. Insight, etc. Not so with an in-combat intimidate check. Its really a form of basic attack as written. This becomes a huge problem when a level 4 character can achieve a +30 to their &quot;attack roll.&quot; The skill description text that states it targets will or a DC set by the DM is also confusing. I believe it is summarizing the 2 situations where its used: either in combat where its straight Intimidate vs. will, or in a skill challenge where its intimidate vs. a set DC. I don't think RAI was to target a DC in combat.All that said, if I was DM'ing a PC that tried to max out their intimidate, I'd let the other players police the game. If they didn't like it but failed to stop it I'd be tempted to get all passive/aggressive by throwing out a monster with a fat charisma and trained in intimidate and let it try to intimidate one of the players. &quot;I'm sorry, your warlock has just crapped his pantaloons and has surrendered.&quot; What's good for the goose is good for the gander. . .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chris Knapp, post: 4819991, member: 65116"] I have used Intimidate a few times, and seen it used by others at the table, but we all have failed; haven't seen a success yet so haven't seen how my DM's handle it. Personally, its just asking for an errata since its the only skill with an opposed check versus a defense. All other opposed checks are against other skills. Moreover, the very nature of an opposed check indicates that the opponent is supposed to roll too: Stealth vs. Perception, Bluff vs. Insight, etc. Not so with an in-combat intimidate check. Its really a form of basic attack as written. This becomes a huge problem when a level 4 character can achieve a +30 to their "attack roll." The skill description text that states it targets will or a DC set by the DM is also confusing. I believe it is summarizing the 2 situations where its used: either in combat where its straight Intimidate vs. will, or in a skill challenge where its intimidate vs. a set DC. I don't think RAI was to target a DC in combat. All that said, if I was DM'ing a PC that tried to max out their intimidate, I'd let the other players police the game. If they didn't like it but failed to stop it I'd be tempted to get all passive/aggressive by throwing out a monster with a fat charisma and trained in intimidate and let it try to intimidate one of the players. "I'm sorry, your warlock has just crapped his pantaloons and has surrendered." What's good for the goose is good for the gander. . . [/QUOTE]

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