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<blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1583504" data-attributes="member: 16019"><p>But the point is that Barbarians generally don't tie up opponents, drag them down to their torture chamber, and then intimidate them to get answers. Barbarians generally use Intimidate in the thick of battle, where there is rarely a table or a metal bar sitting there to be broken or bent in half. But in each case, it would hardly be an intimidate check with Strength as the key ability score- it would be a Strength check, first, to do the feat of strength, and then an intimidate check using his charisma modifier (as normal) with a circumstance bonus for the action he just performed. After all, if a Barbarian with no presence that comes off as a dumb oaf breaks a table and then roars at you, it'll be intimidating, no doubt. However, if a Barbarian that has an aura of destruction and amazing presence rips a metal bar apart with his bare hands, it's definitely going to be more intimidating than the other guy.</p><p></p><p>In short, don't switch around the ability scores. Charisma is just as important, if not moreso, than Strength. And bending a guy's sword in half is completely out of the question. First he'd have to make a sunder attack with his bare hands (which would incur an attack of opportunity unless he has both the Improved Sunder and Improved Unarmed Strike feats), THEN make a Strength check (opposed by his opponent's Dexterity check, of course, since his opponent isn't just gonna stand there and let him bend his sword), and THEN an intimidate check. I can see him taking damage somewhere in that too, even without an attack of opportunity, as it's not that easy to bend a sharpened blade with your bare hands without cutting yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UltimaGabe, post: 1583504, member: 16019"] But the point is that Barbarians generally don't tie up opponents, drag them down to their torture chamber, and then intimidate them to get answers. Barbarians generally use Intimidate in the thick of battle, where there is rarely a table or a metal bar sitting there to be broken or bent in half. But in each case, it would hardly be an intimidate check with Strength as the key ability score- it would be a Strength check, first, to do the feat of strength, and then an intimidate check using his charisma modifier (as normal) with a circumstance bonus for the action he just performed. After all, if a Barbarian with no presence that comes off as a dumb oaf breaks a table and then roars at you, it'll be intimidating, no doubt. However, if a Barbarian that has an aura of destruction and amazing presence rips a metal bar apart with his bare hands, it's definitely going to be more intimidating than the other guy. In short, don't switch around the ability scores. Charisma is just as important, if not moreso, than Strength. And bending a guy's sword in half is completely out of the question. First he'd have to make a sunder attack with his bare hands (which would incur an attack of opportunity unless he has both the Improved Sunder and Improved Unarmed Strike feats), THEN make a Strength check (opposed by his opponent's Dexterity check, of course, since his opponent isn't just gonna stand there and let him bend his sword), and THEN an intimidate check. I can see him taking damage somewhere in that too, even without an attack of opportunity, as it's not that easy to bend a sharpened blade with your bare hands without cutting yourself. [/QUOTE]
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