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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1592661" data-attributes="member: 16019">I'm afraid I have to disagree.An Iron Bar, I'm sure we can all agree, is strong. It's very strong. It's so strong it's kept prisoners in their cells for centuries. And yet, if I saw an iron bar sitting on a table, I wouldn't be the least bit scared.I know you're all laughing at how horrible of an example you think that was. But was it? Let's say, instead of an iron bar, it were an iron person. I litte iron figurine, lifeless, and sitting there. I still wouldn't be intimidated. Why? Because it isn't doing anything. Okay. Make it move. Now, it's a little moving wind-up iron guy. Okay, it's a toy soldier. Ooh, scary. For some reason, it still isn't intimidating. What is he missing?Well, he's got Strength, and he's got Dexterity. He hasn't got a constitution score, but something tells me that making him a little moving blob of flesh isn't going to help him out. What else is he missing? Mental ability scores.Let's give him Intelligence and Wisdom. (And, as spelled out in the Monster Manual, a creature with Wisdom has to have Charisma. Let's just give him a charisma of 1 to keep it simple.) Now, he can perform thought processes and (vaguely) distinguish between himself and others. He can repeat things back to you, add numbers, do menial chores, and so on. If you tell him to say, "Give me all of your money," he'll say it. Heck, he might even say it on his own. Either way, it's a flat, monotone "Give me all of your money."He's a bit more intimidating than he was before (as he now has thought), but still not very. Hmm. Let's give him more strength. Make him bigger. Make him human-sized, but with arms the size of beer kegs. Now, he's a big, iron person. And when he walks up to you, he says in the same, monotone voice, "Give me all of your money."Alright, people are getting scared. At least, somewhat. They're getting a bit uneasy when around him, but if you really think about it, it's purely because they don't know who or what he is. Ignorance is more intimidating than anything else. However, whenever he asks for money, it's the same monotonous, boring tone. "Give me all of your money."The reason? Because he can't distinguish between himself and others. He could probably punch a hole in a brick wall, but he doesn't know how to get people to do what he wants to do. Buff up his strength even more, but it's still gonna be the same, "Give me all of your money." Nope. "Give me all of your money." Nah. "Give me all of your money." Still the same boring, boring, boring iron guy.Let's pump up his charisma a bit. Now, when he says, "Give me your money," he really means it. He sounds imposing. He sounds threatening. He's got just as many muscles as before, but he's just got more... presence. He's got more vigor. He emphasizes the "GIVE ME all of your money!".I know it's a bit strange, but think about it. If he were a scrawny iron guy, he might not be as threatening when you see him coming down the hall, but it really wasn't his Strength that made him threatening in the first place- it was his Charisma.I actually think Henry Hankovich summed it up really well. I just had to point out the inherent idiocy of the statement, "Strength is naturally intimidating."</blockquote>

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