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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 3988875" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>Well, I can say with surety that if you're being ganged up on, I'm not part of that.</p><p></p><p>You posted some stuff, I posted my reaction. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of story. No one ever invited me to the secret meeting where we plotted to undermine and destroy your character. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I think the FORCE of your reaction stirred up some equal and opposing forces, which may be responsible for you feeling defensive. I mean, lets face it...you came -that- close to calling us all irresponsible little kiddy-gamers...and a case could be made that you were -implying- precisely that...so I think it's a little naive not to expect some kickback. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>That said, I don't get the impression anyone wants to do you or your character harm, nor exclude him or you from the game.</p><p></p><p>Certainly I don't, IC or OOC. </p><p></p><p>My reaction to all this is to suspect, rather deeply, that there are issues here that go beyond the obvious. The force and singlemindedness of your emotional response seems way out of kilter with the actual gravity of the situation. From what I can see, based on what you're saying, you're doing two things that seem to be blowing this event up to Texas Grande Size in your mind.</p><p></p><p>1) You're making very broad assumptions on what this incident "means about us." That is, because we reacted violently to being assaulted in our sleep, we must therefore be violent people who will continue to be violent in all other possible scenarios.</p><p></p><p>I hope I don't have to point out the logical fallacy in that.</p><p></p><p>2) You're investing these critters -very generously- in terms of assuming what their motivations in attacking are. Somehow, they've become the Satans in your own private Paradise Lost...the tragic, misunderstood heroes who only wanted to protect what was theirs, and were subjected to unjustifiably brutal punishment for the crime.</p><p></p><p>It's equally (and I would suggest, possibly more so) possible that these critters were hungry, saw some sleeping sacks of blood and meat, and thought, "Hey! Lets get us summa that!"</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't mind holding onto -the possibility- that these creatures might be communicable...that we might make more amicable contact. I don't even think you're outside the reasonable to be <em>somewhat</em> upset (in character) that none of us seem terribly interested in trying to make peace with them. If that's who Enko is...lets run with that.</p><p></p><p>What I take issue with is that all Enko's, and yours, arguments revolve around these assumptions being true. Not just possible. True. This leads me to suspect that, in your mind, you've already accepted it as being true. So what are you going to do when, say, tomorrow night, we find out that...oops...nope. They're just evil little trollthings who wanted to kill us. Are you going to construe that as an attack on you too?</p><p></p><p>I...gah. This is already longer than it should be. </p><p></p><p>I beg you, Dire...I -beg- you. Just ease off a bit. Unclench. It's a -game-. So things didn't go your way this time...have some faith. Most importantly, try to find a way to use the conflicts this reveals -to have fun-. Not to alienate or isolate others...or ourselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 3988875, member: 4936"] Well, I can say with surety that if you're being ganged up on, I'm not part of that. You posted some stuff, I posted my reaction. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of story. No one ever invited me to the secret meeting where we plotted to undermine and destroy your character. :) I think the FORCE of your reaction stirred up some equal and opposing forces, which may be responsible for you feeling defensive. I mean, lets face it...you came -that- close to calling us all irresponsible little kiddy-gamers...and a case could be made that you were -implying- precisely that...so I think it's a little naive not to expect some kickback. :) That said, I don't get the impression anyone wants to do you or your character harm, nor exclude him or you from the game. Certainly I don't, IC or OOC. My reaction to all this is to suspect, rather deeply, that there are issues here that go beyond the obvious. The force and singlemindedness of your emotional response seems way out of kilter with the actual gravity of the situation. From what I can see, based on what you're saying, you're doing two things that seem to be blowing this event up to Texas Grande Size in your mind. 1) You're making very broad assumptions on what this incident "means about us." That is, because we reacted violently to being assaulted in our sleep, we must therefore be violent people who will continue to be violent in all other possible scenarios. I hope I don't have to point out the logical fallacy in that. 2) You're investing these critters -very generously- in terms of assuming what their motivations in attacking are. Somehow, they've become the Satans in your own private Paradise Lost...the tragic, misunderstood heroes who only wanted to protect what was theirs, and were subjected to unjustifiably brutal punishment for the crime. It's equally (and I would suggest, possibly more so) possible that these critters were hungry, saw some sleeping sacks of blood and meat, and thought, "Hey! Lets get us summa that!" Now, I don't mind holding onto -the possibility- that these creatures might be communicable...that we might make more amicable contact. I don't even think you're outside the reasonable to be [i]somewhat[/i] upset (in character) that none of us seem terribly interested in trying to make peace with them. If that's who Enko is...lets run with that. What I take issue with is that all Enko's, and yours, arguments revolve around these assumptions being true. Not just possible. True. This leads me to suspect that, in your mind, you've already accepted it as being true. So what are you going to do when, say, tomorrow night, we find out that...oops...nope. They're just evil little trollthings who wanted to kill us. Are you going to construe that as an attack on you too? I...gah. This is already longer than it should be. I beg you, Dire...I -beg- you. Just ease off a bit. Unclench. It's a -game-. So things didn't go your way this time...have some faith. Most importantly, try to find a way to use the conflicts this reveals -to have fun-. Not to alienate or isolate others...or ourselves. [/QUOTE]
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