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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 5974733" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I think my explanation may have been insufficient or our collective rubber is not meeting the road because I fail to see the two issues you're depicting arising: - the core game being modified?- the need for multiple styles and bloat because of it?The core game would actually not need to be modified at all.&nbsp; I'm not sure why you think it would.&nbsp; If you're presupposing a core playstyle - Theatre of the Mind + Low/Dark Fantasy - then you can default every class to be represented in the PHB1 via pre-builds under those auspices.&nbsp; Every other playstyle would just be &quot;Plug and Play&quot; by &quot;unplugging&quot; those pre-ordained choices and &quot;plugging in&quot; their own choices. For instance, if you wanted a 4e character who was (i) Tactical Module ready and whose flavor was (ii) High Fantasy sub-genre relevant, you pick powers/features that possess both Keywords.&nbsp; Etc, Etc.Regarding the second concern, I just don't see it.&nbsp; There really are only a few very broad, muddled sub-genres of DnD.&nbsp; There is no more need to focus like a laser beam on sub-sub-sub-genres such as &quot;Twilight-Angst-Addled-Teenager With a Whiff of Harry Potter Chicanery&quot; as there is to allow absurdly narrow archetypes as classes.&nbsp; You compose them through narrowing or broadening or muddling composition by way of the various build options (PC and game mechanics) available.Look, almost every single thread, when you get down to it, appears to be a war over two things:1)&nbsp; Your preferred playstyle/game mechanics representing the &quot;default&quot; (goodrightfun) DnD in the core.2)&nbsp; Representation of your preferred playstyle/game mechanics in the core as a product of page count.If we are that concerned with these two issues (specifically 2), then this is a possible avenue of lessening page count (through Keyword usage) and thus having more representation of each of our preferred playstyles/game mechanics in the core rulebooks.&nbsp; Further, a &quot;Plug and Play&quot; class system based on sub-genre and mechanic-interface specific Class Features seems to be an easy way for players and DMs to constrain their games to their specific playstyles.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 5974733, member: 6696971"] I think my explanation may have been insufficient or our collective rubber is not meeting the road because I fail to see the two issues you're depicting arising: - the core game being modified? - the need for multiple styles and bloat because of it? The core game would actually not need to be modified at all. I'm not sure why you think it would. If you're presupposing a core playstyle - Theatre of the Mind + Low/Dark Fantasy - then you can default every class to be represented in the PHB1 via pre-builds under those auspices. Every other playstyle would just be "Plug and Play" by "unplugging" those pre-ordained choices and "plugging in" their own choices. For instance, if you wanted a 4e character who was (i) Tactical Module ready and whose flavor was (ii) High Fantasy sub-genre relevant, you pick powers/features that possess both Keywords. Etc, Etc. Regarding the second concern, I just don't see it. There really are only a few very broad, muddled sub-genres of DnD. There is no more need to focus like a laser beam on sub-sub-sub-genres such as "Twilight-Angst-Addled-Teenager With a Whiff of Harry Potter Chicanery" as there is to allow absurdly narrow archetypes as classes. You compose them through narrowing or broadening or muddling composition by way of the various build options (PC and game mechanics) available. Look, almost every single thread, when you get down to it, appears to be a war over two things: 1) Your preferred playstyle/game mechanics representing the "default" (goodrightfun) DnD in the core. 2) Representation of your preferred playstyle/game mechanics in the core as a product of page count. If we are that concerned with these two issues (specifically 2), then this is a possible avenue of lessening page count (through Keyword usage) and thus having more representation of each of our preferred playstyles/game mechanics in the core rulebooks. Further, a "Plug and Play" class system based on sub-genre and mechanic-interface specific Class Features seems to be an easy way for players and DMs to constrain their games to their specific playstyles. [/QUOTE]

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