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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 9017299" data-attributes="member: 6777737">Personally, I think the big hurdle with 4e is that it's so difficult to get a handle on all the material for it, especially if you want errata. There is no support from WotC for any of that anymore. I don't even think the old errata documents are available from them anymore. The lack of tools and the difficulty in managing the game is a huge turn-off for me. Plus 4e still has remaining game balance issues with HP bloat, feat taxes, etc. I like the core 4e combat -- with the PHB1 martial characters especially -- but it just seems too daunting. I firmly believe the only reasonable way to play 4e D&amp;D was to use the character builder tools, and, while I imagine you can still find those, I really don't want to run software that I downloaded from some... less than savory sources.The fact that Paizo has such a good history with their adventure modules would be the final nail for me. PF2 all the way.But, if you insist on going with 4e, I believe Rob Bodine created 4e libraries for Andy Aiken's Masterplan.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 9017299, member: 6777737"] Personally, I think the big hurdle with 4e is that it's so difficult to get a handle on all the material for it, especially if you want errata. There is [I]no[/I] support from WotC for any of that anymore. I don't even think the old errata documents are available from them anymore. The lack of tools and the difficulty in managing the game is a huge turn-off for me. Plus 4e still has remaining game balance issues with HP bloat, feat taxes, etc. I like the core 4e combat -- with the PHB1 martial characters especially -- but it just seems too daunting. I firmly believe the only reasonable way to play 4e D&D was to use the character builder tools, and, while I imagine you can still find those, I really don't want to run software that I downloaded from some... less than savory sources. The fact that Paizo has such a good history with their adventure modules would be the final nail for me. PF2 all the way. But, if you insist on going with 4e, I believe Rob Bodine created 4e libraries for Andy Aiken's Masterplan. [/QUOTE]

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