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<blockquote data-quote="Lakesidefantasy" data-source="post: 9410231" data-attributes="member: 6682043">I specifically chose the term &quot;scientific mindset&quot; in this thread to try and communicate with the most people. I considered &quot;modern knowledge&quot;, &quot;common mindset&quot;, and even &quot;scientific thinking&quot;, but I rejected each for one reason or another. When evaluating conversations about the scientific mindset we should consider how the common man would think about it.This thread sprung from a conversation that was had in another thread where the participants were discussing the term &quot;species&quot; as a replacement for race. The discussion was focused on the clear classification of kinds of mythical creatures and the difficulty that hybridization of real creatures presents for such definitions. There was lots of talk about lions, tigers, ligers and tigons, oh my!This kind of talk is why I'm not a fan of species as a term for race. It further invites a scientific mindset into the game of Dungeons and Dragons. Within the Community the scientific mindset also leads to other things--like the endless conversations about the impact of real world economics in a made up fantasy world. Or, the classic, giants crumpling under their own weight--another introduction of real world physics into a not real world.Applying a scientific mindset to a fantasy world is fun! But, it is entertainment unto itself and is not neccessary for a fun game otherwise. I was hoping to explore how a scientific mindset has impacted the game we love in other ways both good and bad. For instance: Why is there no air in the astral plane? Why do spelljammers need a bubble of air around them? Is it because we apply our modern understanding of outer space to the astral plane?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lakesidefantasy, post: 9410231, member: 6682043"] I specifically chose the term "scientific mindset" in this thread to try and communicate with the most people. I considered "modern knowledge", "common mindset", and even "scientific thinking", but I rejected each for one reason or another. When evaluating conversations about the scientific mindset we should consider how the common man would think about it. This thread sprung from a conversation that was had in another thread where the participants were discussing the term "species" as a replacement for race. The discussion was focused on the clear classification of kinds of [B]mythical creatures [/B]and the difficulty that hybridization of [B]real creatures [/B]presents for such definitions. There was lots of talk about lions, tigers, ligers and tigons, oh my! This kind of talk is why I'm not a fan of species as a term for race. It further invites a scientific mindset into the game of Dungeons and Dragons. Within the Community the scientific mindset also leads to other things--like the endless conversations about the impact of [B]real world[/B] economics in a made up [B]fantasy world[/B]. Or, the classic, giants crumpling under their own weight--another introduction of [B]real world[/B] physics into a [B]not real world[/B]. Applying a scientific mindset to a fantasy world is fun! But, it is entertainment unto itself and is not neccessary for a fun game otherwise. I was hoping to explore how a scientific mindset has impacted the game we love in other ways both good and bad. For instance: Why is there no air in the astral plane? Why do spelljammers need a bubble of air around them? Is it because we apply our modern understanding of outer space to the astral plane? [/QUOTE]

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