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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7560096" data-attributes="member: 42582">Classic Traveller was once the most-played game after D&D. The fact that it is no longer widely played doesn't make it "niche" or "specialised" or otherwise not count as an example of how mainstream RPGing can work.I already posted the example of Admin skill upthread.Here is Streetwise (p15 of my 1978 printing of Book 1):The referee should set the throw required to obtain any item specified by the players (for example, the name of an official willing to issue licences without hassle - 5+; the location of high quality guns at a low price - 9+). DMs based on stretwise should be alowed at +1 per level. No expertise DM - -5.Extrapolating from the examples given, we can see that the DC for a 2d6 roll is likely to range between 10+ and 14+ depending on the "sensitivity"/"heat" involved, with a +6 for Streetwise-1, +1 for each further level of expertise,As with Admin, the example highlights that for many (though not all) skills in Classic Traveller, the first rank has a much bigger impact than subsequent ranks. That makes sense in a system where skills are obtained via random generation and total skill ranks for a PC are often not all that high.From the 4e Rules Compendium (pp 126-27):The following definitions help the Dungeon Master determine which of the three DCs is appropriate for a particular check. The goal is to pick a DC that is an appropriate challenge for a particular scenario or encounter. Easy: An easy DC is a reasonable challenge for creatures that do not have training in a particular skill. Such creatures have about a 65 percent chance of meeting an easy DC of their level. An easy DC is a minimal challenge for a creature that has training in the skill, and it is almost a guaranteed success for one that also has a high bonus with the skill. In group checks (page 128) or when every adventurer in a party is expected to attempt a given skill check, particularly when no one necessarily has training, an easy DC is the standard choice for the scenario. Moderate: A moderate DC is a reasonable challenge for creatures that have training in a particular skill as well as for creatures that don’t have training but do have a high score (18 or higher) in the skill’s key ability. Such creatures have about a 65 percent chance of meeting a moderate DC of their level. In a skill challenge (page 157), a moderate DC is the standard choice for a skill check that a single creature is expected to make. Hard: A hard DC is a reasonable challenge for creatures that have training in a particular skill and also have a high score (18 or higher) in the skill’s key ability. Such creatures have about a 65 percent chance of meeting a hard DC of their level. A hard DC is the standard choice for a skill check that only an expert is expected to succeed at consistently.This text appears beneath a chart of DCs by level. No GM who sets DCs following these guidelines is going to have trouble setting an appropriate DC (which is going to be well above a 1% chance of success).</blockquote>

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