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<blockquote data-quote="jeffh" data-source="post: 8684493" data-attributes="member: 2642"><p>I'm always curious when people find stuff like this confusing, as it's always good to have clearer ways of conveying this kind of information when writing rules. Writing these somewhat mathematical bits has a lot of pitfalls. A wording that is completely clear to me will often just confuse my more math-phobic friends, while wordings that they actually find helpful often strike me as ambiguous or incomplete. (Maybe they give a clear answer 98% of the time but the 2% where they don't <em>really bothers me</em>.) So I hope you'll indulge me in asking a few questions.</p><p></p><p>(It is quite possible I'm <em>massively </em>overthinking this, all my questions have the same obvious-once-you-see-it answer, and this is a lot simpler than it looks to me. That would be kind of nice, actually!)</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'm a bit unclear on what the source of confusion was here. If you can articulate it, what made this wording confusing to you? (I know, I know, "why are you confused about _______" can be a difficult and even aggressive-sounding question. To be able to answer that question would, in some cases, require being no longer confused! If it's hard to say, it's hard to say.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What, to you, would be a clearer way to say the same thing?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What made you think it might mean you used both scores? (And, used them <em>how</em>, exactly)?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You yourself used the word "higher" in the first (correct) one of your two options. To me this makes your question seem almost the same as "does 'higher' mean 'higher'?". Obviously, to you it didn't seem that way, or you wouldn't have asked! What makes the two "higher"s seem to you like they might mean different things?</li> </ul><p>I hope this comes off as genuine curiosity and desire to improve my own explanations, and not as badgering. That's an awful lot of text for such a small point! I'm <em>somewhat </em>sorry about that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":giggle:" title="Giggle :giggle:" data-smilie="27"data-shortname=":giggle:" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffh, post: 8684493, member: 2642"] I'm always curious when people find stuff like this confusing, as it's always good to have clearer ways of conveying this kind of information when writing rules. Writing these somewhat mathematical bits has a lot of pitfalls. A wording that is completely clear to me will often just confuse my more math-phobic friends, while wordings that they actually find helpful often strike me as ambiguous or incomplete. (Maybe they give a clear answer 98% of the time but the 2% where they don't [I]really bothers me[/I].) So I hope you'll indulge me in asking a few questions. (It is quite possible I'm [I]massively [/I]overthinking this, all my questions have the same obvious-once-you-see-it answer, and this is a lot simpler than it looks to me. That would be kind of nice, actually!) [LIST] [*]I'm a bit unclear on what the source of confusion was here. If you can articulate it, what made this wording confusing to you? (I know, I know, "why are you confused about _______" can be a difficult and even aggressive-sounding question. To be able to answer that question would, in some cases, require being no longer confused! If it's hard to say, it's hard to say.) [*]What, to you, would be a clearer way to say the same thing? [*]What made you think it might mean you used both scores? (And, used them [I]how[/I], exactly)? [*]You yourself used the word "higher" in the first (correct) one of your two options. To me this makes your question seem almost the same as "does 'higher' mean 'higher'?". Obviously, to you it didn't seem that way, or you wouldn't have asked! What makes the two "higher"s seem to you like they might mean different things? [/LIST] I hope this comes off as genuine curiosity and desire to improve my own explanations, and not as badgering. That's an awful lot of text for such a small point! I'm [I]somewhat [/I]sorry about that :giggle:. [/QUOTE]
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