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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tharkon" data-source="post: 5539413" data-attributes="member: 6674292">The portable hole is inside the extradimensional space, the phylactery is lying next to it.Nail it to the sky? With what? And couldn't any creature with flight just retrieve it?Discern Location requires having touched the object at least once. Multiple uses of Legend Lore probably could do it (The spell describes every character above 11th level as legendary, Liches are always 11th level or higher) but this would cost a few months. Still works if you use it before engaging the Lich.Find the Path only works on the same plane, so it would depend on whether an extradimensional space qualifies for that. Since you can't use teleport to go in or out an extradimensional space according to the FAQ I assume Find the Path doesn't work either.Perhaps after you know the exact location and then go to that location with Astral Projection you would find a very small portal. Small enough that anyone who did not expect it to be there would overlook it.BTW, thought it might be worth mentioning this Lich is hypothetical and I have not created it, nor am I facing it in any campaign. It's just an idea I came up with while reading about Liches and Extradimensional in the FAQ. In that entry it was an example of not wanting a Lich Archmage ambushing you from your own portable hole.</blockquote>