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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 754963" data-attributes="member: 1118">Yeah, I think I explained my point better in another thread.  IF you don't know the flanker is there, then no flanking bonus.  However, what happens if the flanker attacks you in round 1 and moves away in round 2 (without you knowing).  Shouldn't the defender still behave like he is flanked?  It gets kinda weird.  I think the Sage was just going with a cut and dried answer that doesn't fit every scenario.BTW - hitting someone with a weapon isn't enough for flanking to occur, otherwise, this is flanking:xAxxDxAxxwhere A=attacker, D=defender, and x=empty square.Since the two attackers have to be directly opposite from each other it makes it harder to understand how the defender can be flanked if he doesn't know where the invisible opponent is.My ruling will be that if the invisible opponent attacks the defender previously in the round then the visible opponent will get flanking bonuses for attacking from the opposite square later in the same round.IceBear</blockquote>