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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Harzel" data-source="post: 7116352" data-attributes="member: 6857506">Yeah, this is one of those weird spots where it is hard to establish any consistent rulings because any 'principle' you develop always seems to lead to some situation that doesn't make sense.That said, my sense of the general intent is to allow the target to wear or carry things without making them effectively visible.So in the case of the rope, I would probably allow it to remain invisible as long as long as the PC is the rope's 'sole source of support' - for instance, if the PC were holding one end of the rope and dropped the other end into the chamber.  However, as soon as the PC ties the rope to something or hands it to another character to hold so that he can descend, then I think it is visible - it is not invisible just because he is touching it.Of course, as soon as I say that, then I wonder what happens if the PC ties the rope around his waist, loops it around something and then lowers himself.  Probably the friction wears through the rope, causing it to break and the PC falls to his death so it doesn't matter. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil    :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></blockquote>