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Invisibility + Gaseous form (Player/DM argument)
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 319604" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Ah, you appear to be correct.</p><p></p><p>Actually, this is kind of interesting.</p><p></p><p>Why would you need this sentence amyway (balance question)?</p><p></p><p>Points:</p><p></p><p>1) Any touch spell by same caster gets lost anyway.</p><p></p><p>2) You must be willing for some other caster to cast Gaseous Form on you.</p><p></p><p>3) So, this sentence ONLY applies to when you are willing and when you have a touch spell up.</p><p></p><p>So, either they put it in to reiterate and #3 is an unexpected side effect, or they actually thought that it was unbalanced for you to have a touch spell up and have an ally cast Gaseous Form on you.</p><p></p><p>Does it really seem possible that it is the latter case since you cannot attack when in Gaseous Form anyway? What would it really matter that someone is Gaseous and has a touch spell up? It's not as if he could attack or could affect incorporeal creatures or anything.</p><p></p><p>Is it because you can come out of Gaseous Form and suddenly attack with a touch attack? It seems unlikely that this would be that unbalancing.</p><p></p><p>I think #3 is an accidental side effect and was probably not their intent at all.</p><p></p><p>If so, that's funny (ironic). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 319604, member: 2011"] Ah, you appear to be correct. Actually, this is kind of interesting. Why would you need this sentence amyway (balance question)? Points: 1) Any touch spell by same caster gets lost anyway. 2) You must be willing for some other caster to cast Gaseous Form on you. 3) So, this sentence ONLY applies to when you are willing and when you have a touch spell up. So, either they put it in to reiterate and #3 is an unexpected side effect, or they actually thought that it was unbalanced for you to have a touch spell up and have an ally cast Gaseous Form on you. Does it really seem possible that it is the latter case since you cannot attack when in Gaseous Form anyway? What would it really matter that someone is Gaseous and has a touch spell up? It's not as if he could attack or could affect incorporeal creatures or anything. Is it because you can come out of Gaseous Form and suddenly attack with a touch attack? It seems unlikely that this would be that unbalancing. I think #3 is an accidental side effect and was probably not their intent at all. If so, that's funny (ironic). :) [/QUOTE]
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