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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8590462" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>5e isn't big on keywords. When the rules are written in more natural language, you probably shouldn't lean on fine grained details of specific words like "instant".</p><p></p><p>It just doesn't make a lot of sense that one spellcaster can finish a spell, and before the spell can take effect, another can 1) recognize what is happening, 2) cast their own spell and, 3) have that spell complete, before the first takes effect. "Instant" or not, the invisibility isn't taking its own sweet time lingering over coffee - it is getting about the business of making the spellcaster not visible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Inquisitive Rogue's "Eye for Detail" allows the rogue to use a bonus action to spot a hidden creature or uncover clues. Which suggests to me that normally observations are full actions, or this subclass ability isn't meaningful. </p><p></p><p>Maybe we can allow observing the spell to be a reaction, as the spell happens on the opponent's turn anyway. But then, they don't have another reaction for the readied spell casting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8590462, member: 177"] 5e isn't big on keywords. When the rules are written in more natural language, you probably shouldn't lean on fine grained details of specific words like "instant". It just doesn't make a lot of sense that one spellcaster can finish a spell, and before the spell can take effect, another can 1) recognize what is happening, 2) cast their own spell and, 3) have that spell complete, before the first takes effect. "Instant" or not, the invisibility isn't taking its own sweet time lingering over coffee - it is getting about the business of making the spellcaster not visible. The Inquisitive Rogue's "Eye for Detail" allows the rogue to use a bonus action to spot a hidden creature or uncover clues. Which suggests to me that normally observations are full actions, or this subclass ability isn't meaningful. Maybe we can allow observing the spell to be a reaction, as the spell happens on the opponent's turn anyway. But then, they don't have another reaction for the readied spell casting. [/QUOTE]
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