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<blockquote data-quote="npiccini" data-source="post: 1931047" data-attributes="member: 18769">I would tend to agree with your DM's revised opinion that the dropping of the coin would in fact render you visible.&nbsp; I think in some ways, and maybe im being presumptuous based on my own campaign, playing with this grey area of when you become visible or not really opens up the flood gates to effectively making invisibillity as powerful as greater invisibility or at least rivaling it in power.&nbsp; I tend to rule on the side of caution in most cases, but thats just me. I certainly dont mean that in a slight to how someone else might rule in their own game, im a firm believer in the earlier opinion that I like to balance the playing field between what the PCs and the NPC's have available to them.&nbsp; Im not one of those &quot;im the DM, so like it!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; I also agree strongly that this is the kind of question that doesnt have an easy answer because there is always another step that the player can push the envelope for a ruling.&nbsp; For example, someone's earlier example about turning a moving fence invisible and all that stuff......it just goes on and on.Play on everyone, and be good to each other!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="npiccini, post: 1931047, member: 18769"] I would tend to agree with your DM's revised opinion that the dropping of the coin would in fact render you visible. I think in some ways, and maybe im being presumptuous based on my own campaign, playing with this grey area of when you become visible or not really opens up the flood gates to effectively making invisibillity as powerful as greater invisibility or at least rivaling it in power. I tend to rule on the side of caution in most cases, but thats just me. I certainly dont mean that in a slight to how someone else might rule in their own game, im a firm believer in the earlier opinion that I like to balance the playing field between what the PCs and the NPC's have available to them. Im not one of those "im the DM, so like it!" :eek: I also agree strongly that this is the kind of question that doesnt have an easy answer because there is always another step that the player can push the envelope for a ruling. For example, someone's earlier example about turning a moving fence invisible and all that stuff......it just goes on and on. Play on everyone, and be good to each other! [/QUOTE]

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