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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hand of Vecna" data-source="post: 170573" data-attributes="member: 755">I'm fairly certain this has been asked before on these boards, or addresses in a Sage Advice column, but since I don't have any of my Dragons nearby, and I didn't find that question on the boards with a quick look, I'll go ahead and ask...If a spellcaster casts Invisibilty on himself, can he see himself? Or, to be more general, can anyone who has had Invisibility cast on them see themselves?Obviously if the subject looked in a mirror, he'd not see himself reflected in it, but if he just looked down to where his feet should be, would he see them?This may seem like a silly (even stupid/retarded) question to some of you, but think about it this way -- the spell description says " if the character casts the spell on someone else, neither the character nor the character's allies can see the subject, unless the character can normally see invisible things or employ magic to do so." This sentence indicates to me that a human wizard casting Invisibility on himself would not be able to see himself (since humans cannot normally see inivisble objects/creatures).Additionally, in the numerous "Invisible Man" movies/tv shows, the Invisible Man never saw himself -- he was just as invisible to himself as he was to others (or else he'd see a faint outline of himself).On the other hand, in LotR (which D&D borrowed/borrows heavily from), Frodo could see himself when he put on The One Ring and turned invisible. Then again, he was sort-of shifted into another plane (The Shadow World), so that argument doesn't completely hold, either.Anyway, how do YOU run Invisibility? (( this whole question arose from a Game the other week. An Invisible comrade was trying to fool someone who knew he was there and wanted proof of something or other, and as the character was talking to buy some time, he was trying to forge some documents to prove he was who he said he was [the character had a full forger's kit, and samples of Big Bad Guys handwriting]. It was getting late and I was somewhat cranky, and blurtd out "How can he see to write?" Player said that the character could see himself & all his equipment; I had some doubts. I later apologized for my outburst, but the questions remains in my fevered brain..... ))</blockquote>

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