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<blockquote data-quote="Greenstone.Walker" data-source="post: 7405908" data-attributes="member: 6788312">I became a lot happier with the 5E stealth rules when I split them into two different concepts - unseen and hidden. If you are unseen then I know you are there and I know vaguely where you are and I can attack you (but with disadvantage).If you are hidden then I don't know where you are, except in the vaguest of ways (for example, somewhere in this room). I may not even know you are there at all. I can't attack you directly except by guessing at a location, and even then I am attacking with disadvantage.You can be unseen but not hidden. For example, an invisible creature leaving tracks or a creature making noise on the other side of an obstruction. Generally, being unseen is a requirement for attempting to hide in the first place and for remaining hidden.It is rare, but you can be hidden but not unseen. For example, someone hiding in plain sight in a crowd or someone using a disguise. I guess a better term for this would be &quot;unnoticed&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenstone.Walker, post: 7405908, member: 6788312"] I became a lot happier with the 5E stealth rules when I split them into two different concepts - unseen and hidden. If you are [B]unseen [/B]then I know you are there and I know vaguely where you are and I can attack you (but with disadvantage). If you are [B]hidden [/B]then I don't know where you are, except in the vaguest of ways (for example, somewhere in this room). I may not even know you are there at all. I can't attack you directly except by guessing at a location, and even then I am attacking with disadvantage. You can be unseen but not hidden. For example, an invisible creature leaving tracks or a creature making noise on the other side of an obstruction. Generally, being unseen is a requirement for attempting to hide in the first place and for remaining hidden. It is rare, but you can be hidden but not unseen. For example, someone hiding in plain sight in a crowd or someone using a disguise. I guess a better term for this would be "unnoticed". [/QUOTE]

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