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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 711477" data-attributes="member: 10131">It depends what kind of Magic setting you're using (high, or low) and what sort of Merchant you're dealing with.Basically, this is how I think of it.  A Merchant is going to have some sort of security systems in place in his shop - the total of which are probably worth about 1/2 what he has in his inventory at any given time.What does this mean?Well, if your invisible rogue wants to steal an ear of corn from a street-vendor, then he can probably get away with it, unless the shop-keeper is very observant.However, if your rogue is trying to steal a +3 shortsword from a magical weapons dealer... chances are that merchant is pretty wealthy.  He may have "See Invisibility" permanently cast upon him (this costs half as much as the ring itself, I believe... only 10,000!)  Or he may have an "Invisibility Purge" zone around his shop.  It all depends on how much money the merchant has.Also remember that when a Merchant is stolen from, he's not going to keep it to himself, unless he's a member of the Night Masks or something.  He'll tell the city guard.  And once the city guard starts getting 3 or 4 reports inside of a week of items "mysteriously vanishing", they may hire a high-level wizard to bring the culprit to justice.Do NOT let your players steal from most shops unless they are particularly ingenious about it.  Rogues can easily abuse invisibility, but you have to know that as a DM, you have ways around it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As for sneak attacking... Think of it this way...  If he is using a normal ring of invisibility, then everytime he attacks, he becomes visible.  Then, next turn, he has to spend his attack to become invisible again.  So he only gets to attack every other round.  Okay, big deal, he gets sneak attacks all the time... but face it, Rogues are GOING to sneak attack nearly all the time.</blockquote>

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