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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7409839" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>An invisible creature isn't hidden simply by being invisible. Other creatures know where they are. They have to take additional steps to become hidden. Once hidden, you have to guess where they are which makes grappling more difficult, but not impossible. </p><p></p><p>I don't like to say whether a character or monster <em>would </em>know a thing or do a thing; rather, I prefer to say they <em>could </em>know a thing or do a thing. So it's reasonable that an NPC or monster <em>could</em> know that grabbing an invisible enemy is a viable tactic. Or they <em>could</em> just stumble upon that in the moment. Grabbing an invisible PC <em>could</em> even be a total unintended (but happy) mistake, depending on how you describe it. Who's to say what the NPC or monster is thinking other than the DM?</p><p></p><p>So I would not make the argument to my players that some tactic made possible by the rules of the game is necessarily known to all intelligent opponents. And though I would try to stay away from things that frustrate my players, in this case, I would encourage them to act with the knowledge that grappling them while they are invisible is a possibility and that, if they don't want that to happen, they should take steps to avoid it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7409839, member: 97077"] An invisible creature isn't hidden simply by being invisible. Other creatures know where they are. They have to take additional steps to become hidden. Once hidden, you have to guess where they are which makes grappling more difficult, but not impossible. I don't like to say whether a character or monster [I]would [/I]know a thing or do a thing; rather, I prefer to say they [I]could [/I]know a thing or do a thing. So it's reasonable that an NPC or monster [I]could[/I] know that grabbing an invisible enemy is a viable tactic. Or they [I]could[/I] just stumble upon that in the moment. Grabbing an invisible PC [I]could[/I] even be a total unintended (but happy) mistake, depending on how you describe it. Who's to say what the NPC or monster is thinking other than the DM? So I would not make the argument to my players that some tactic made possible by the rules of the game is necessarily known to all intelligent opponents. And though I would try to stay away from things that frustrate my players, in this case, I would encourage them to act with the knowledge that grappling them while they are invisible is a possibility and that, if they don't want that to happen, they should take steps to avoid it. [/QUOTE]
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