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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 27380" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Thanks for the replies,</p><p></p><p>The essential question seems to be when the victim gets his Dex bonus back. Does anyone have a rules reference for when that happens? A number of people say it is at the beginning of the victim's next turn which sounds like applying the surprise flat footed rules. The victim is not flat footed however and according to the spell on the srd:</p><p></p><p>"If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible"</p><p></p><p>Therefore the invisibility seems to be broken immediately on the first strike, so the character is visible for the second and third strikes.</p><p></p><p>From the condition summary in the srd it says:</p><p></p><p>"Invisible</p><p>Visually undetectable. Invisible creatures gain a +2 bonus to attack rolls and negate Dexterity bonuses to their opponents' AC."</p><p></p><p>Therefore it seems that when the character is no longer invisible, his opponent should no longer be denied his dexterity bonus.</p><p></p><p>I have not found a reference saying the opponent must wait for his turn again to gain his dex bonus back.</p><p></p><p>That's why I'm thinking the 1 sneak attack option is correct according to the rules.</p><p></p><p>However, if there was a reference to Dex not being regained until the victim's next turn then the 3 sneak attack option would be correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 27380, member: 2209"] Thanks for the replies, The essential question seems to be when the victim gets his Dex bonus back. Does anyone have a rules reference for when that happens? A number of people say it is at the beginning of the victim's next turn which sounds like applying the surprise flat footed rules. The victim is not flat footed however and according to the spell on the srd: "If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible" Therefore the invisibility seems to be broken immediately on the first strike, so the character is visible for the second and third strikes. From the condition summary in the srd it says: "Invisible Visually undetectable. Invisible creatures gain a +2 bonus to attack rolls and negate Dexterity bonuses to their opponents' AC." Therefore it seems that when the character is no longer invisible, his opponent should no longer be denied his dexterity bonus. I have not found a reference saying the opponent must wait for his turn again to gain his dex bonus back. That's why I'm thinking the 1 sneak attack option is correct according to the rules. However, if there was a reference to Dex not being regained until the victim's next turn then the 3 sneak attack option would be correct. [/QUOTE]
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