Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Invisible flanking?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Kaffis" data-source="post: 4341391" data-attributes="member: 10305"><p>Okay, our gnome warlock did something today that feels like it needs attention and a careful ruling.</p><p></p><p>He got hit, faded away, and then misty stepped into position to provide two allies flanking on two enemies.</p><p></p><p>I looked up invisibility, flanking, and combat advantage, and it looks like by the RAW, invisible creatures (or hidden ones, as this character frequently conceal-stealths himself, too, taking advantage of shadow walk's concealment-from-out-of-the-blue) can provide flanking bonuses to enemies.</p><p></p><p>This makes little sense logically, though, so I'm pondering whether it's worth a house rule. Flanking grants combat advantage because the flankee is forced to divide its attention and defensive awareness between the current threat and threats behind. But if the flankee is unaware of the threat behind, how does the attacker get the benefit of his distraction?</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, fade away's invisibility only lasts the one turn, and if this character is to provide flanking for long, he's not moving his 3 squares to trigger shadow walk and allow himself to hide, so this turns into one of my few chances to actually have enemies take shots at him. So perhaps until my party can cast invisiblity on a few hirelings and sustain it (or hire a level 6 wizard as a hireling, hah) so the hirelings can stand around, unthreatened in their invisibility, and flank (without attacking, so as not to break it), I can just leave it be.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts? Amused observations? Comments? Corrections?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaffis, post: 4341391, member: 10305"] Okay, our gnome warlock did something today that feels like it needs attention and a careful ruling. He got hit, faded away, and then misty stepped into position to provide two allies flanking on two enemies. I looked up invisibility, flanking, and combat advantage, and it looks like by the RAW, invisible creatures (or hidden ones, as this character frequently conceal-stealths himself, too, taking advantage of shadow walk's concealment-from-out-of-the-blue) can provide flanking bonuses to enemies. This makes little sense logically, though, so I'm pondering whether it's worth a house rule. Flanking grants combat advantage because the flankee is forced to divide its attention and defensive awareness between the current threat and threats behind. But if the flankee is unaware of the threat behind, how does the attacker get the benefit of his distraction? On the other hand, fade away's invisibility only lasts the one turn, and if this character is to provide flanking for long, he's not moving his 3 squares to trigger shadow walk and allow himself to hide, so this turns into one of my few chances to actually have enemies take shots at him. So perhaps until my party can cast invisiblity on a few hirelings and sustain it (or hire a level 6 wizard as a hireling, hah) so the hirelings can stand around, unthreatened in their invisibility, and flank (without attacking, so as not to break it), I can just leave it be. Thoughts? Amused observations? Comments? Corrections? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Invisible flanking?
Top